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MikeBayko



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Post Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 12:59 pm      Post subject: Jablonica Polska greek catholic record gaps
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Hello again,

In the archiwum Panstwowe v Przemyslu, there are two notable gaps in the scanned records from the greek catholic parish in Jablonica Polska and Malinowka, the first and largest gap is 1801 to 1829, with the records starting back again in 1830. The second gap is from 1844 to 1848, with the records resuming in 1849.

http://www.skany.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/show.php?zesp=142&cd=0&ser=0&syg=7700

I know it isn't really necessary to have these records, but it would be so nice and convenient if they were available for these year gaps.

I would really appreciate it if anyone knows anything about either of these year gaps. Were they recorded in a different parish because the one in Jablonica Polska was undergoing maintenance or something? Were they moved to a different archive somewhere other than Przemysl? Are they not in a good enough condition to be copied and scanned online? Or were they somehow destroyed?

Thank you.



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Post Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:00 am      Post subject: Re: Jablonica Polska greek catholic record gaps
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MikeBayko wrote:
Hello again,

In the archiwum Panstwowe v Przemyslu, there are two notable gaps in the scanned records from the greek catholic parish in Jablonica Polska and Malinowka, the first and largest gap is 1801 to 1829, with the records starting back again in 1830. The second gap is from 1844 to 1848, with the records resuming in 1849.

http://www.skany.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/show.php?zesp=142&cd=0&ser=0&syg=7700

I know it isn't really necessary to have these records, but it would be so nice and convenient if they were available for these year gaps.

I would really appreciate it if anyone knows anything about either of these year gaps. Were they recorded in a different parish because the one in Jablonica Polska was undergoing maintenance or something? Were they moved to a different archive somewhere other than Przemysl? Are they not in a good enough condition to be copied and scanned online? Or were they somehow destroyed?

Thank you.


Mike,

The copies of the registers held in the National Archives in Przemyśl are just one set of a number of copies of the registers which had been made. The gaps do not mean that records were not kept for those years. The gaps signify that copies of the records for those years do not exist in the records held by that particular archive. Other places where copies of the registers existed usually included a government office in Vienna and the archives of the diocese to which the parish belonged. The original books usually were housed in the parish itself. Records housed in locations other than the Polish National Archives usually have not been digitized and therefore cannot be found online. After WWI the Austrian government was not diligent about returning copies to Poland, which probably explains the gaps. By contacting the parish itself you should be able to determine whether the originals without gaps exist in the parish archives.

Here is a translation of the Latin notations you posted: “The year 1801:Here ends the copy of the register of births of the parish of Jablonica from the original Vol. II, page 28.” This notation is followed by: “I attest that it was collected from and agrees with the original word for word.” Dated: March 25, 1838 and signed by the administrator of the Deanery (Polish: dekenat).

In my opinion, the notations indicate that the copies which ended up in Przemyśl were divided into a number of volumes and this set (and probably the missing set from 1801 through 1829) were examined and certified by the administrator of the deanery in 1838.

Although this response does not answer your original questions about the current existence or nonexistence of records for the gap years, I hope it sheds some light on the subject.

Wishing you success,

Dave
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