Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:51 pm
Post subject: Theodore and Sophia Milewski Wisniewski search
Looking for any information on Theodor and Sophia MilewskiWisniewski they came to the United States in the 1880 settlte out East first before move to southside Milwaukee Wisconsin also known at the time little poland. Some of the children were born in Russian Poland but 3 of them were bornin the United states
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 1:54 am
Post subject: Re: Theodore and Sophia Milewski Wisniewski search
richardstephens wrote: | Looking for any information on Theodor and Sophia MilewskiWisniewski they came to the United States in the 1880 settlte out East first before move to southside Milwaukee Wisconsin also known at the time little poland. Some of the children were born in Russian Poland but 3 of them were bornin the United states |
Can You plase provide more information? Everything You know about the spuoses and those children who were born in Poland.
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:06 am
Post subject: Re: Theodore and Sophia Milewski Wisniewski search
richardstephens wrote: | Looking for any information on Theodor and Sophia MilewskiWisniewski they came to the United States in the 1880 settlte out East first before move to southside Milwaukee Wisconsin also known at the time little poland. Some of the children were born in Russian Poland but 3 of them were bornin the United states |
Hi richardstephens,
Maybe a few spelling clues might be of help to you. In Polish, Theodor is Teodor and Sophia is Zofia. If you are looking for them on a ship's passenger list, this is useful to know. Once in the U.S., they would likely have shifted to Theodor(e) and Sophia, except inside a Polish community, so for example if they had a child in a Polish church in Milwaukee, their names would likely show up on the baptism record as Teodor and Zofia, even if simultaneously they were in a city directory as Theodor and Sophia. The surname Wisniewski would be spelled Wiśniewski in Polish records, and it is not an especially rare name. That makes it all the more important to know what town or city they came from, since that is how records in Poland are filed.
Marcelproust has helped innumerable people on this forum, not only with finding records but with translating them into English. If you have a ship's list, or census records or childrens' birth records from which we can derive a hometown in Poland, and the ages of the people in the family, you can post those images here. That would be a big leap forward.
Best of luck,
Sophia
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Posted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:11 pm
Post subject: Re: Theodore and Sophia Milewski Wisniewski search
Sophia wrote: | richardstephens wrote: | Looking for any information on Theodor and Sophia MilewskiWisniewski they came to the United States in the 1880 settlte out East first before move to southside Milwaukee Wisconsin also known at the time little poland. Some of the children were born in Russian Poland but 3 of them were bornin the United states |
Hi richardstephens,
Maybe a few spelling clues might be of help to you. In Polish, Theodor is Teodor and Sophia is Zofia. If you are looking for them on a ship's passenger list, this is useful to know. Once in the U.S., they would likely have shifted to Theodor(e) and Sophia, except inside a Polish community, so for example if they had a child in a Polish church in Milwaukee, their names would likely show up on the baptism record as Teodor and Zofia, even if simultaneously they were in a city directory as Theodor and Sophia. The surname Wisniewski would be spelled Wiśniewski in Polish records, and it is not an especially rare name. That makes it all the more important to know what town or city they came from, since that is how records in Poland are filed.
Marcelproust has helped innumerable people on this forum, not only with finding records but with translating them into English. If you have a ship's list, or census records or childrens' birth records from which we can derive a hometown in Poland, and the ages of the people in the family, you can post those images here. That would be a big leap forward.
Best of luck,
Sophia |
Hi,
Sophia offers you some sound suggestions and to follow up on those suggestions it seems that you need to do additional legwork in Milwaukee before attempting research in Europe. If you have not already looked at information on Family Search, I would suggest that you use what is available there as a starting point. Here is the link: https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?givenname=theodore&surname=wisniewski&spouse_givenname=sophia&record_country=United%20States&record_subcountry=United%20States%2CWisconsin Based on what is found there—especially the 1900 Census—Theodore & Sophia were from German controlled Poland and immigrated in 1882. The date of immigration suggests that it is unlikely that passenger lists and/or naturalization records would be of much help in determining where they were from in Europe. A search on two indexes in Poland (Poznan Project and Geneteka) do not provide any hits. I would suggest an alternate strategy—using church marriage records of their sons who were born in Europe in the hope that those records may provide info regarding place of birth/baptism. Attached is a list of Polish Catholic parishes in Milwaukee. Based on the address on the 1900 Census the closest parish appears to be St. Hyacinth’s. (Other possible churches would be St. Adalbert’s and St. Josaphat’s). You should ask for either an image of the entry in the parish marriage register—the best scenario —or at least a transcription of the entry. (A marriage certificate will not contain the data you would need.) Another record which may contain the info you need would be the parish death record of Theodore. Also, his civil death certificate may have the clues you need.
Wishing you success,
Dave
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 6:42 pm
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Hello,
I found a US census record for 1900 for Theodore and Sophia in Milwaukee. It provides quite a lot of information. Take a look and see if you recognize any of the other names.
As I looked through the search results, it became clear that there is more than one Theodore and Sophie Wisniewski in the Milwaukee area around the same ages with similar immigration years which complicates matters unless you know the names of their children and an estimated birth year for your Theodore and Sophie.
I suggest you subscribe to Ancestry.com (if you haven't yet done so) and collect all the documents you can in the United States so as to narrow down and possibly even pinpoint his village of birth in Poland. For example: this census record indicates this Theodore and Sophia were born and married in Prussian Poland and so were two of their sons. Records for the other Theodore and Sophia in Milwaukee indicate a birth in Russian Poland. Only you can sort through the various documents with the knowledge you have of your own family.
I also saw a lot of other family trees in Ancestry.com that have Theodore and Sophie Wisniewski from Milwaukee. Some of them have quite a bit of information and are public so you can view them. However, be careful because I noticed that a lot of those trees were mixing documents from both Theodores (the one from Russia and the one from Prussia).
Happy searching,
Cynthia
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