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Dugas_Chelsea wrote: |
This is from an Ellis Island record of my Great-grandmother's entrance in 1909. It lists her father's name, Antoni Deśkiewicz , pretty clearly. Her mother's name.. not so much. I have stared at this for too long, need some help!
This is on line 20 for Jozefa Deśkiewicz. I have cropped the names of her parents to see it closer. |
Dugas_Chelsea wrote: |
This is from an Ellis Island record of my Great-grandmother's entrance in 1909. It lists her father's name, Antoni Deśkiewicz , pretty clearly. Her mother's name.. not so much. I have stared at this for too long, need some help!
This is on line 20 for Jozefa Deśkiewicz. I have cropped the names of her parents to see it closer. |
Sophia wrote: | ||
Hi, I agree with Dave. You clearly see the line where it says "Father: Antoni Deskiewicz". Below that (indented, and not on a line) it reiterates the town she is from, Krzywa, where her father still lived. Below that relates to the next person on the list, whose mother's name was Sore Kramer. As you can see, in the column for this passenger's "race or people" is the entry Hebrew, and the name Sore would be in keeping with that. I'm guessing you already know that there is a second page to this manifest, which will have additional information for Jozefa (but I mention it anyway, because not everyone realizes it). It may also be interesting for you to page through the ship manifest until you reach the page for Detained Passengers. The large X next to Jozefa's name indicates that she was detained. This is not a serious thing (not as serious, for example, as the people who were held for Special Inquiry), it was practically standard practice for a woman travelling alone, such were the times! If you look at the two people listed above Jozefa, you see "SI" (Special Inquiry) by their names, and the stamp "deported." Anyway, I like to look at the detainees, because sometimes you get to see the name of yet another relative who came to get them. Best of luck in your research, Sophia |
Sophia wrote: | ||
Hi, I agree with Dave. You clearly see the line where it says "Father: Antoni Deskiewicz". Below that (indented, and not on a line) it reiterates the town she is from, Krzywa, where her father still lived. Below that relates to the next person on the list, whose mother's name was Sore Kramer. As you can see, in the column for this passenger's "race or people" is the entry Hebrew, and the name Sore would be in keeping with that. I'm guessing you already know that there is a second page to this manifest, which will have additional information for Jozefa (but I mention it anyway, because not everyone realizes it). It may also be interesting for you to page through the ship manifest until you reach the page for Detained Passengers. The large X next to Jozefa's name indicates that she was detained. This is not a serious thing (not as serious, for example, as the people who were held for Special Inquiry), it was practically standard practice for a woman travelling alone, such were the times! If you look at the two people listed above Jozefa, you see "SI" (Special Inquiry) by their names, and the stamp "deported." Anyway, I like to look at the detainees, because sometimes you get to see the name of yet another relative who came to get them. Best of luck in your research, Sophia |
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Sophia wrote: |
Hi,
I read his name as Marcin Tomczak. He is actually not her cousin, but rather her brother-in-law (abbreviated BIL if you look at the detainees page). It was a cousin who had provided her with the money to make the journey. If you follow this link https://stevemorse.org/ellis2/mm.htm?back=https%3A%2F%2Fstevemorse.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fboat.php%3Fseries%3D%26rollStart%3D%26rollEnd%3D%26volumeStart%3D%26volumeEnd%3D%26monthStart%3D%26dayStart%3D%26yearStart%3D1909%26monthEnd%3D%26dayEnd%3D%26yearEnd%3D1909%26boatkind%3Dstarts%26boat%3DPresident%2BGrant%26offset%3D1%26portkind%3Dstarts%26port%3D%26pageSize%3D50%26database%3Dall%26local%3Dyes%26auth%3D&series=1&roll=1370&frame=428&display=true you then have to go to FRAME 875 (see the box for Frame?) it will get you to her entry on the list of detained passengers (she is number 40). Best regards, Sophia |