KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:41 pm
Post subject: Zapart - Trying to trace husbands grandparents
Trying to find information on the parents of Marian Ludwig Zapart born 7 July 1912 in Colonog, Poland.
Parents were Ludwika Zapart and Assastarji (maiden name unknown).
Any help would be appreciated.
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
Joined: 18 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:18 am
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Hi KZ - Merry Christmas!
Can you tell us where you got the information you've posted? It might help someone here. I am no expert on village names, but Colonog seems unusual. Is this how the village name was spelled on a document? Do you have any hunch about what part of Poland Marian's village is located - did he ever mention any large towns (this might help narrow down the area).
Also, Marian Ludwig Zapart's parents. Is Assastarji the mother's name or father's? Is this information from a document, or from memory provided by Marian Ludwig Zapart himself?
Did this family remain in Poland or emigrate to another country?
These questions might seem a little strange, but understanding some of these tiny details might help someone who can provide you with a clue.
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drphil
Joined: 31 Oct 2009
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Location: Carrollton, KYBack to top |
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:04 pm
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Hello, I looked for the town Colonog in my Polish Atlas and did not find any such town or any towns even close to this spelling.
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KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:18 pm
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Hi Shellie,
Merry Christmas!
"Can you tell us where you got the information you've posted? It might help someone here. I am no expert on village names, but Colonog seems unusual. Is this how the village name was spelled on a document? Do you have any hunch about what part of Poland Marian's village is located - did he ever mention any large towns (this might help narrow down the area).
Also, Marian Ludwig Zapart's parents. Is Assastarji the mother's name or father's? Is this information from a document, or from memory provided by Marian Ludwig Zapart himself?
Did this family remain in Poland or emigrate to another country? "
Information from Death certificate issued NSW Australia.
He did have a daughter in USA.
Kerrie
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:24 pm
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Hi,
National Archives in Australia holds two records about a Maryan Zapart, born in 1912. The years matches the death certificate you have.
Gilberto
A11668 660-661 ZAPART Marian DOB 7 July 1912; Hildegard DOB 25 January 1927
Access status: Not yet examined
Location: Canberra
1948 - 1949 4152213
A446 1956/50933 Application for Naturalisation - ZAPART Marian born 7 July 1912
Access status: Not yet examined
Location: Canberra
1955 - 1956 8355564
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KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:49 pm
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Hi,
Just googled & think it is a typo on DC & is probably should be Golonog, Poland. Reread DC Assastarji is down as mothers surname.
We know Marian's other details, it is his parents that we do not have any information other than the names.
Marians daughter Alice from a previous unknown relationship lives/d in USA.
Regards
KZ
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:39 pm
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Hi,
No place called Golonog in Poland. I tried Karlsruhe as Hildegard's birthplace but come to nothing.
She and Maryan arrived to Australia on USAT General Omar Bundy
Most passengers are World War II refugees or displaced persons
Departure Port: Naples, Italy
Departure Date: 11 June 1949
Arrival Port: Sydney, Australia
Arrival Date: 8 July 1949
0809 ZAPART Hildegard
0810 ZAPART Marian
http://www.immigrantships.net/v6/1900v6/generalomarbundy19490708_02.html
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KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:10 pm
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Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 8:29 pm
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You are welcome.
I see your point. Golonog is not a city or village, it is a neighborhood in Dabrowa-Gornicza, in slaskie province.
It is not listed as a village, town or city in mapa.szukacz.pl nor in Cities and Municipalities of Slaskie in http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pollodz/slastown.htm
As to Karlsruhe I did find nine results in www.kartenmeister.com but could not link any of them to Golonog.
Maryan's birth record is surely kept at the Civil Records Office in Dabrowa-Gornicza, whose address is:
Urząd Stanu Cywilnego - Dąbrowa Górnicza
Dane kontaktowe:
Miasto: 41-300 Dąbrowa Górnicza
Adres: ul. Graniczna 21
Telefon:32 29 56 708
Fax: 32 26 25 032
Email:usc[at]dabrowa-gornicza.pl
Strona www: http://www.dabrowa-gornicza.pl
Teryt: 2465011
województwo śląskie
powiat Dąbrowa Górnicza
gmina Dąbrowa Górnicza
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KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:12 pm
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Thank you for this information. I will try to make contact & see if I'm able to get the records.
In the meantime would love to hear from anyone who may know these names or would like to offer more advice.
Regards
KZ
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KZ
Joined: 20 Jan 2011
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Location: Sydney, NSW, AustraliaBack to top |
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:00 pm
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To all who responded,
Just wanted to let you know that I finally got a copy of my father-in-law's birth certificate thanks to your help.
It was a little challenging as I emailed my questions in English only to get a reply in Polish, which neither myself nor my husband read, write nor speak. Through google translate was able to sort out what I needed to do to purchase it.
Regards
KZ
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