Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:29 pm
Post subject: Help with German
Falkowitz (Falcowice) 23 February 1794 __ ___ ___ ____ the gardner (farmer) Sobek Walczok _______ (lawful wife?)
Agnetha born Stadolkin (Stodolka) born and ___ ___ Reverend C (Carl) Kraus
named Christina _____ _____ ? ? ? ? ? Sponsors: Hedwig Jurkin (Jurek) ______ Catharina Sobaninin
young girl and Woytek Sohwitala gardner (farmer) from Falkowitz.
Thanks again,
louie
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:26 am
Post subject: Re: Help with German
Louie wrote: | Falkowitz (Falcowice) 23 February 1794 __ ___ ___ ____ the gardner (farmer) Sobek Walczok _______ (lawful wife?)
Agnetha born Stadolkin (Stodolka) born and ___ ___ Reverend C (Carl) Kraus
named Christina _____ _____ ? ? ? ? ? Sponsors: Hedwig Jurkin (Jurek) ______ Catharina Sobaninin
young girl and Woytek Sohwitala gardner (farmer) from Falkowitz.
Thanks again,
louie |
Louie
Please find some additions in bold:
Falkowitz (Falcowice) 23 February 1794 a daughter [Mägdlein] of the gardner’s (farmer) Sobek Walczok wife [Eheweib] Agnetha born Stadolkin (Stodolka) was born and from [von dem Herrn – the reverend was a respected authority and hence addressed as “Herr”] Reverend C (Carl) Kraus was baptized ‘Christina’ [Nahmens Christina getaufet worden] whereby acted as sponsors [wobey als Pathen gewesen]: Hedwig Jurkin (Jurek), a farmer’s wife [Bäuerin], Catharina Sobaninin, a maid [Jungfer] and Woytek Sohwitala gardner (farmer) from Falkowitz.
Best regards,
Michael
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2020 12:35 pm
Post subject: German Translation needed
Parish: St. Stanislaus, Bishop and Martyr Church located in Falkowitz (Falkowice).
Rough Transliteration
Dambrowka (Dambrowka Dolna)
__?_ 6 Januar
{1865}
Der (Den?) gärtner Johann Welna ____ U.S.E. Agnes Huntcha ___ Januar ___ funf geb.
Sohn nammed Casper Johann T.Z. Johanna Sura _____ im Damm Hammer Caroline
Surra Einlieger zu Dambrowka, Martin Wilczek ___ im Colonie D. Hamer.
Rough Translation:
Dambrowka
_?_ 6 January
The farmer* Johann Welna _?_** U.S. E.*** Agnes “Huntcha __?_** born (on) __?_ January 5
a son named Casper Johann. God Parents. Johanna Sura, Zur __?___**** in Dam(mratsh) Hammer, Caroline*****
Sura a farmhand from Dambrowka, Martin Wilczek __?__***** in Colonie Dam(mratsch) Hamer
*Landless farm hand
Obvious problems:
** If it is “den”=the, then is it also the same word after Huntcha”? I can’t cipher that part of the translation work.
*** (U. S. E.) I think this means “and lawful/legitimate wife” U(nd) S.? E(hefrau) but I can’t figure out what the “S” stands for, if indeed it is an “s”.
**** I hastily translated it as Bauer; I think that it is incorrect. Now it looks like two words. Does it start with a “B”? “zur: at the” ????
***** I first thought it was Emilie, but upon looking at it again the descending g from geb. may have led me astray. So maybe Caroline but there is a dotted “I” or “ie” at the end.
***** I began looking for an occupation but all I see a whole bunch of letters: f, s, b y etc. (I sometimes see a cloud shaped like a duck.) I tried the words “both” and “also”. That didn’t work and didn’t make sense. I shall be amused when it is revealed to me!
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:51 am
Post subject: Re: German Translation needed
Hello Louie,
Please find attached some additions and comments to your record in bold:
Parish: St. Stanislaus, Bishop and Martyr Church located in Falkowitz (Falkowice).
Rough Transliteration
Dombrowka (Dambrowka Dolna)
d[en] 6. Januar
{1865}
Dem Häusler Johann Wetna den v[on] s[einem] E[heweib] Agnes Huntcha den Januar ___ funf geb. [The last words in this row are illegible.]
Sohn Namens Casper Johann. T.[auf]Z.[eugen] Johanna Sura Häuslerin in Damm. Hammer [Dammratschhammer] Caroline [The name is illegible either, but it should be a man, as he is called “Einlieger” in the next row, not “Einliegerin”]
Sura Einlieger zu Dombrowka, Martin Wilczek ___[I would give “Schuster” a try] in Colonie D. Hammer [Dammratschhammer].
Translation:
Dombrowka
the 6th of January
to the cottager Johann Wetna a child was born from his wife Agnes Hutcha on January 5 and given the name Caspar Johann. Godparents were Johanna Sura, a cottager’s wife in Dammratschhammer, N.N. Sura, a lodger in Dombrowka, Martin Wilczek, a shoemaker in Colonie Dammratschhammer.
*Landless farm hand: In Silesia you will often find a social differentiation between “Bauer” or farmer (owns a house, a garden and enough land to earn his living from), “Gärtner” or gardener (owns a house, a garden and some land), “Häusler” or cottager (owns a cottage and a – small – garden, no land), “Einlieger” or lodger (has no house or land of his own, often works as a farmhand).
Obvious problems:
** If it is “den”=the, then is it also the same word after Huntcha”? I can’t cipher that part of the translation work. It’s the same word “den” and refers to the newborn child.
*** (U. S. E.) I think this means “and lawful/legitimate wife” U(nd) S.? E(hefrau) but I can’t figure out what the “S” stands for, if indeed it is an “s”. I would read this as “von seinem Eheweib” or from his wife.
**** I hastily translated it as Bauer; I think that it is incorrect. Now it looks like two words. Does it start with a “B”? “zur: at the” ???? [Häusler, see above]
***** I first thought it was Emilie, but upon looking at it again the descending g from geb. may have led me astray. So maybe Caroline but there is a dotted “I” or “ie” at the end. I cannot read this name either, but it should be a man, as he is called “Einlieger”, not “Einliegerin” in the next row.
***** I began looking for an occupation but all I see a whole bunch of letters: f, s, b y etc. (I sometimes see a cloud shaped like a duck.) I tried the words “both” and “also”. That didn’t work and didn’t make sense. I shall be amused when it is revealed to me! I would give “Schuster” or shoemaker a try.
Hope this helps,
Michael
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a4u2fear
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:46 am
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Hi Andrew,
I read it as Filin and it is unusal to me, too. You will find a few family names "Filin" in Bavaria (around 7) and some given names (also "Fillin"). It seems to be a male name.
Best regards,
Michael
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Kurt1322
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2020 4:28 pm
Post subject: 1871 Death Record Translation
Could someone please assist me with the translation of this death record for Johanna Smukala.
Thank you,
Kurt
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:01 am
Post subject: Re: 1871 Death Record Translation
Kurt1322 wrote: | Could someone please assist me with the translation of this death record for Johanna Smukala.
Thank you,
Kurt |
Hello Kurt,
Joanna Smukata, a maid [Dienstmädchen], residing in Owidz [a landed estate 4.4 kilometers south-east of Stargard], 30 years old, deceased on October 7, [1871] at 10 o’clock and was buried on October 10. She was of Catholic confession and died of smallpox [Blattern].
Known or assumed heirs were the laborer [Arbeiter] Jozeph Smukata in Owidz [and] xxx Elisabetha xxx xxx in Raika [might mean Raikau]. I am not sure about this second line.
As they start with “Witwer” or widower, it seems as if the remarks [Bemerkungen] refer to the previous entry.
Best regards,
Michael
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a4u2fear
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2020 11:33 am
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thanks Michael
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Jillian W
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 4:07 pm
Post subject: Occupation Translation
I am seeking help in finding out the occupation of my ancestor, Jan, and now understand that the attached records are written in German and not Polish as I originally believed.
Jan acted as a godparent at the baptism of a child whose father was a soldier in the 40th Line Infantry Regiment in Jaslo. Attached is the original entry which I'm guessing is in Jan's own handwriting as well as a duplicate in a different hand which may be easier to read.
I would appreciate any help in deciphering his occupation.
Jillian
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 5:53 am
Post subject: Re: Occupation Translation
Jillian W wrote: | I am seeking help in finding out the occupation of my ancestor, Jan, and now understand that the attached records are written in German and not Polish as I originally believed.
Jan acted as a godparent at the baptism of a child whose father was a soldier in the 40th Line Infantry Regiment in Jaslo. Attached is the original entry which I'm guessing is in Jan's own handwriting as well as a duplicate in a different hand which may be easier to read.
I would appreciate any help in deciphering his occupation.
Jillian |
Hello Jillian
Johann Belliczay was a dragoon or “Kreis Dragoner”. The word “Kreis” might indicate his unit. As you see in the first column, the 40th Line Infantry Regiment was part of Württemberg’s army, so Johann might have been in that army, too. I would have a look at the “Kreis-Dragoner-Regiment-Württemberg”.
Best regards,
Michael
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Jillian W
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:37 pm
Post subject: Occupation Translation
Thank you very much for this translation Michael - I'm very grateful.
Jillian
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:34 am
Post subject: Help with German - Marianna Deja
1876 Marianna was born on the 20th of July and baptized by the Mr. Reverend Kochan on the 25 of July. The father was Jacob Deja, a (black)smith and the mother was Caecilie Zynda both from Kobilla. Godparents were: ________ Piorkowski and Antonia Piorkowska from Pogutki.
Problems:
1) The priest’s last name.
2) Birthday - what is written before the zwanzigsten?
3) The first name of one of the godparents – I just went with “Vincent” but when double checking . I noticed there was no “t” .
Thanks much,
louie
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:54 am
Post subject: Re: Help with German - Marianna Deja
Louie wrote: | 1876 Marianna was born on the 20th of July and baptized by the Mr. Reverend Kochan on the 25 of July. The father was Jacob Deja, a (black)smith and the mother was Caecilie Zynda both from Kobilla. Godparents were: ________ Piorkowski and Antonia Piorkowska from Pogutki.
Problems:
1) The priest’s last name.
2) Birthday - what is written before the zwanzigsten?
3) The first name of one of the godparents – I just went with “Vincent” but when double checking . I noticed there was no “t” .
Thanks much,
louie |
Hello Louie,
1) The priest’s last name. I read his name as “Pf.[arrer] Kochanke”.
2) Birthday - what is written before the zwanzigsten? It’s hard to see, but Marianna was born on the 21st, so it’s “ein u. zwanzigsten”
3) The first name of one of the godparents – I just went with “Vincent” but when double checking . I noticed there was no “t” . The name is Vincenz.
Best regards,
Michael
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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:45 am
Post subject: Surname Kocinski
Hello,
This is the birth record of a daughter of my great aunt Anna Kocinski.
Any help with translation would be very helpful to confirm where they lived in Poland.
Thank you.
My maiden name is Kocinsky. My grandfather changed the i to a y at some point.
Regards,
LaVon Claycomb
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