dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:57 pm
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Hi All,
St. Stanislaus and 5 other parishes in Waterbury were combined in 2017 to form a new parish of Todos los Santos (All Saints) so it would be a good bet that the records of St. Stanislaus are housed in the office of the new parish. If they are not housed there, the parish should be able to direct you to where they are held. Link: https://allsaintswtby.org/ You may or may not find Felix & Sophie’s marriage but you should find the B&B records of their children there. It would seem to be worth the effort to contact the parish.
Wishing you the best of luck,
Dave
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dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Wieslowicz origin/meaning
Hi jajan.
Seems like a good fit to me plus their residence was in the same neighborhood as in the 2 censuses found by Sophia. In case All Saints doesn’t work for their marriage here is a link to the history of Polish Catholics in Waterbury and where they worshiped prior to the foundation of the Polish parish https://liturgicalcenter.org/media/parish_pdf/HRT/hrt-14.2.pdf
Dave
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wierbonics
Joined: 13 Apr 2023
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Location: new hampshire, usaBack to top |
Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 1:12 pm
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Thanks jajan.
That’s why I’m here. “Wierbonics” has always vexed my family as to its origin. People comment on how unique it is and think it’s some type of tech company.
Everyone has been so friendly and helpful on this forum. It’s much appreciated!!
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 4:54 pm
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Here is an example of what Wierzbowicz looks like with fairly typical Polish handwriting. It is very common for the letter combination "rz" to be connected when handwritten, exactly as you see here. Sometimes non-Polish-speaking people mistake it for the letter "n" but it could be mistaken for "r".
Can you see how it would be possible to interpret "wicz" as "nics" and overall how it could look like Wierbonics?
This is just a snippet that I took from a birth record online.
If you would like to hear what it sounds like, go here:
https://translate.google.com/?sl=pl&tl=en&text=Wierzbowicz%20&op=translate
Click on the "listen" icon. The first time you click, it will say the name at regular speed. The second time you click, it will say it more slowly.
Best regards,
Sophia
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MikeP
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:43 pm
Post subject: Wierzbowicz origin/meaning
Hi All,
Thank you Sophia! Good news! The surname Wierzbowicz is in William Hoffman's "Polish Surnames" book. Here are the details: Wierzb-{tree, plant, growing thing} from wierzba, wirzba (archaic spelling), wierba (dialect), meaning "willow"; Wierzbowicz (223). So as of 2002 there were 223 Polish citizens with this surname.
Mike
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 5:20 am
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Hi All,
So much good information is being gathered here!
We now have a solid spelling of the surname, Wierzbowicz, and very nice info on the root of that name. Just to add, the name Felix would be Feliks in Polish, and your Sophie would be Zofia. You've got their date of marriage, as well as their census records for 1910 (good find!), 1920, 1930 and 1950.
One thing that still is a sticking point is Felix's place of origin. To that end, I have found a ship manifest for a Franciszek "Wersbowitz." It shows that his destination is his brother "F. Wierzbowicz" in Waterbury, CT. He is on line 8, here:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G165-9KP?i=656&cc=1368704
It gives Franciszek's last residence, but I cannot read what it says. Can anyone help?
There is also a brother-in-law, Teofil Sikpowitz, whose destination is also "F. Wierzbowicz" in Waterbury, here on line 22:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-816G-VQ8?i=523&cc=1368704
Again, I cannot read his former residence. It may be less helpful, because as a brother-in-law he would not necessarily be from the same town as Felix.
Even more interesting is this:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95R-Z9QY?i=55&cc=1368704
It appears that Felix, Sophie and two of the kids visited Poland and returned in 1908, see lines 10-13. Note that this is a two-page manifest, so you need to advance to the next frame to see the info on the second page. What is the place name? Islotaki?
Just to add, I would definitely recommend following Dave's advice to get info from the church.
Best regards,
Sophia
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wierbonics
Joined: 13 Apr 2023
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 12:30 pm
Post subject: Wierbonics/Wisolowicz
Holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sophia - you are great! I don't know what to say. Thank you so much. This all seems to make perfect sense.
MikeP - thank you so much for the background on the surname. I find this especially interesting due to the fact that I'm a nature freak and love gardening as my father did.
I am just blown away by your perseverance and kindness.
You are all such excellent researchers!
This all makes me so excited.....so in my humble opinion, our name Wierbonics, was an evolution of misinterpreted handwriting of Wierzbowicz . That seems reasonable, right?
I.am.blown.away!!!
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:10 pm
Post subject: Re: Wierbonics/Wisolowicz
| wierbonics wrote: | Holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sophia - you are great! I don't know what to say. Thank you so much. This all seems to make perfect sense.
MikeP - thank you so much for the background on the surname. I find this especially interesting due to the fact that I'm a nature freak and love gardening as my father did.
I am just blown away by your perseverance and kindness.
You are all such excellent researchers!
This all makes me so excited.....so in my humble opinion, our name Wierbonics, was an evolution of misinterpreted handwriting of Wierzbowicz . That seems reasonable, right?
I.am.blown.away!!! |
Hi Wierbonics,
I can hardly imagine the feeling you must have, finally knowing what your family's name originally was. I am so pleased to have contributed to that.
You have summed it up very well. Your current spelling, Wierbonics, came about because of misinterpreted handwriting. If you go back to the link I gave you for looking up Connecticut marriages and you do a search on Wierbonics, you will see a 1929 marriage where that form of the name was used, which fits in with what you wrote in your first post, where you said your surname was changed somewhere between 1920 and 1940.
I am still hoping that someone reading this thread will be able to make sense of the town that Felix came from.
Have a wonderful time sharing the Wierzbowicz info with your family!
Best regards,
Sophia
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wierbonics
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 6:28 pm
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Thank you
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