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Post Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 5:01 am      Post subject: Death Record - Search Request
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Can someone kindly search for any mention of a death of Henryk Matys between 1870 to 1884 in this collection:

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=122958

I am willing to pay for some to research for it.

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Post Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 6:17 am      Post subject: Re: Death Record - Search Request
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HelpTheFamily wrote:
Can someone kindly search for any mention of a death of Henryk Matys between 1870 to 1884 in this collection:

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=122958

I am willing to pay for some to research for it.

Best Regards.

Lucas Kernan


Hi,
This is a link to the evangelical church in Bialystok. Do you know he died between 1870-84?
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Post Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 4:56 pm      Post subject: Re: Death Record - Search Request
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BarbOslo wrote:
HelpTheFamily wrote:
Can someone kindly search for any mention of a death of Henryk Matys between 1870 to 1884 in this collection:

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=122958

I am willing to pay for some to research for it.

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Lucas Kernan



Hi,
This is a link to the evangelical church in Bialystok. Do you know he died between 1870-84?
-Barb[/u]


He is listed as dead in his wife's name in the census of 1884 in Bialystok. He had a daughter in 1870. So I gave the time he died from 1870 to 1884.
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:13 am      Post subject: Re: Death Record - Search Request
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He is listed as dead in his wife's name in the census of 1884 in Bialystok. He had a daughter in 1870. So I gave the time he died from 1870 to 1884.[/quote]

Hi,
Okay.
I have seen his age at the wedding. He was 22 years old. This means that he was born ab. 1840. All records relating to the family could be found in the Catholic Church Białystok NMP.
I have looked at the death records from the Evangelical church in Białystok for the years 1870-1884. I could not see any Matys. But I found the surname Mathes. Heinrich Mathes who died on February 18, 1872, at the age of 32 years. This gives a suggested birth year of 1840. Attaches this record (no. 15). You can see if this is the person you are looking for.
Additional info. In the headline "Geburtsort des Verstorbenen"(Birthplace of the deceased) the place Turek is noted. Turek is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Poświętne, within Białystok County, Podlaskie Voivodeship, in north-eastern Poland. About 39 km from Białystok.
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:17 am      Post subject: Re: Death Record - Search Request
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BarbOslo wrote:
He is listed as dead in his wife's name in the census of 1884 in Bialystok. He had a daughter in 1870. So I gave the time he died from 1870 to 1884.


Hi,
Okay.
I have seen his age at the wedding. He was 22 years old. This means that he was born ab. 1840. All records relating to the family could be found in the Catholic Church Białystok NMP.
I have looked at the death records from the Evangelical church in Białystok for the years 1870-1884. I could not see any Matys. But I found the surname Mathes. Heinrich Mathes who died on February 18, 1872, at the age of 32 years. This gives a suggested birth year of 1840. Attaches this record (no. 15). You can see if this is the person you are looking for.
Additional info. In the headline "Geburtsort des berftorbenen"(Birthplace of the deceased) the place Turek is noted. Turek is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Poświętne, within Białystok County, Podlaskie Voivodeship, in north-eastern Poland. About 39 km from Białystok.
regards,
-Barb[/quote]

Thanks alot. That is him. This means alot to me. Does it mention where he ws buried though?

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:20 am      Post subject: Re: Death Record - Search Request
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HelpTheFamily wrote:
BarbOslo wrote:
He is listed as dead in his wife's name in the census of 1884 in Bialystok. He had a daughter in 1870. So I gave the time he died from 1870 to 1884.


Hi,
Okay.
I have seen his age at the wedding. He was 22 years old. This means that he was born ab. 1840. All records relating to the family could be found in the Catholic Church Białystok NMP.
I have looked at the death records from the Evangelical church in Białystok for the years 1870-1884. I could not see any Matys. But I found the surname Mathes. Heinrich Mathes who died on February 18, 1872, at the age of 32 years. This gives a suggested birth year of 1840. Attaches this record (no. 15). You can see if this is the person you are looking for.
Additional info. In the headline "Geburtsort des Verstorbenen"(Birthplace of the deceased) the place Turek is noted. Turek is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Poświętne, within Białystok County, Podlaskie Voivodeship, in north-eastern Poland. About 39 km from Białystok.
regards,
-Barb


Thanks alot. That is him. This means alot to me. Does it mention where he ws buried though?

Best Regards,

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 3:25 am      Post subject:
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No, only the date of the burial.
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No, only the date of the burial.
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Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb


Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

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I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:46 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
HelpTheFamily wrote:
BarbOslo wrote:
No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb


Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan



I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

-Barb


Where could I get parish registers of Gmina Poświętne? Thanks
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:00 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
HelpTheFamily wrote:
BarbOslo wrote:
No, only the date of the burial.
-Barb


Ok. Thanks. Last question: Could the Town be in Poznan?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan



I don't think so. Note that on this page, another person was born in Turek.
Checked the Evangelical parish in Turek (Poznan) for the years 1838-1842, and Henrik is not listed there.

-Barb


Where could I get parish registers of Gmina Poświętne? Thanks
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:03 am      Post subject:
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I don't know if there is anything online. The parish of Pietkowo is the closest to Turek.
What do you know about the parents of Henrik, Franciszek Matys and Rachel Weber? It may be a thread to his birth. Is it coming from Poznan area?

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I don't know if there is anything online. The parish of Pietkowo is the closest to Turek.
What do you know about the parents of Henrik, Franciszek Matys and Rachel Weber? It may be a thread to his birth. Is it coming from Poznan area?

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His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

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Could someone check if there is a mention of the surname Mathes in this parish through 1837 to 1845?

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=22073
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BarbOslo wrote:
I don't know if there is anything online. The parish of Pietkowo is the closest to Turek.
What do you know about the parents of Henrik, Franciszek Matys and Rachel Weber? It may be a thread to his birth. Is it coming from Poznan area?

-Barb


His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.

Edit:

Could someone check if there is a mention of the surname Mathes in this parish through 1837 to 1845?

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/en/zespol?p_p_id=Zespol&p_p_lifecycle=1&p_p_state=normal&p_p_mode=view&_Zespol_javax.portlet.action=zmienWidok&_Zespol_nameofjsp=jednostki&_Zespol_id_zespolu=22073
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:18 am      Post subject:
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His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
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