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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 7:25 am      Post subject:
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His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
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Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 11:45 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
- Barb


Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.


Hello,
After a few hours of searching, I found Henryk's birth record. He was born as Jan Henrych Matais, on May 21, 1839 at 6 a.m. in the town of Turek. Attaches this record: (no. 115 from the Catholic Church in Turek). He also had a sister named Joanna Fryderyka born on September 30, 1843 in Turek. She married Rudolph Krosta on August 6, 1865 in Białystok (ewang.)

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-Barb

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:02 pm      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


Ok. If his parents were married in Turek (Poznan), then Henrik must have been born in Turek (Poznan) or in the area. I have checked the birth register for the years 1838-1842 and he is not to be found there (see: Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 4:17 am).
- Barb


Would he be born around that parish then? Could you also translate the whole death record to get an idea of it? Sorry that I am asking you alot of things.


Hello,
After a few hours of searching, I found Henryk's birth record. He was born as Jan Henrych Matais, on May 21, 1839 at 6 a.m. in the town of Turek. Attaches this record: (no. 115 from the Catholic Church in Turek). He also had a sister named Joanna Fryderyka born on September 30, 1843 in Turek. She married Rudolph Krosta on August 6, 1865 in Białystok (ewang.)

Best regards,
-Barb


Thanks alot.

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Is there a way that i could pay you for this research you have done? I would also like the death records of Traugott, Traugott's Mother in Turek after 1837, Rachel's parents in Turek after 1837.

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Lucas Kernan
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:31 pm      Post subject:
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His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


What else do you know about the parents of Henrik Mathes / Matys 1839-1872? Do you have a date of death for both of them?
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:35 pm      Post subject:
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His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


What else do you know about the parents of Henrik Mathes / Matys 1839-1872? Do you have a date of death for both of them?
-Barb


I think that Henryk Mathes worked in a circus in Białystok around the 1870s. That is what I heard from my great grandmother.

By the way, This a translation of Traugott Mathes and Rachel weber Marriage Record translated by you a few months ago:

https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=18967&sid=012b47e4eef11a004d94c86a35805d9b
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:44 pm      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


What else do you know about the parents of Henrik Mathes / Matys 1839-1872? Do you have a date of death for both of them?
-Barb


I think that Henryk Mathes worked in a circus in Białystok around the 1870s. That is what I heard from my great grandmother.

By the way, This a translation of Traugott Mathes and Rachel weber Marriage Record translated by you a few months ago:

https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=18967&sid=012b47e4eef11a004d94c86a35805d9b



I remember that, but do you have the date of death for Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber?
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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 5:51 pm      Post subject:
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HelpTheFamily wrote:
BarbOslo wrote:
His parents were 99 percent Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber. They got married in Turek on June 13/25, 1837. According to many people who translate Henryk's marriage record to Ludwika, they say they miswrote his father's name with the priest's name.


What else do you know about the parents of Henrik Mathes / Matys 1839-1872? Do you have a date of death for both of them?
-Barb


I think that Henryk Mathes worked in a circus in Białystok around the 1870s. That is what I heard from my great grandmother.

By the way, This a translation of Traugott Mathes and Rachel weber Marriage Record translated by you a few months ago:

https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=18967&sid=012b47e4eef11a004d94c86a35805d9b



I remember that, but do you have the date of death for Traugott Mathes and Rachel Weber?


No, I have no death date of them. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2023 6:03 pm      Post subject:
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Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.


Wow, that was quick.
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Is there a death record for Anna Rozyna Mathes nee Neumann in Turek after 1837?
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Post Posted: Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:46 pm      Post subject:
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Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.


Where did you get the following records?

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Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.


Where did you get the following records?

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Lucas Kernan



From the Evangelical Augsburg Parish in Białystok.

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Post Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:13 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
Both died in 1860 in Bialystok. See Attachment.


Where did you get the following records?

Best Regards,

Lucas Kernan



From the Evangelical Augsburg Parish in Białystok.

-Barb


Thanks
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