Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:05 am
Post subject: Finding a village or town
I have another question. I'm trying to figure out the town that is underlined in red in the attached image if anyone can help.
Thanks again in advance.
LuAnn
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 10:52 am
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| LuAnn wrote: | I have another question. I'm trying to figure out the town that is underlined in red in the attached image if anyone can help.
Thanks again in advance.
LuAnn |
Hi LuAnn,
I do not have a guess at the moment, but rather a question. Whatever this document is, are you able to tell from entries for other people elsewhere in the same type of document, that what is written on this line is going to be the name of a town?
Thanks,
Sophia
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:36 am
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Hi,
It looks like the place is in line 2. Jaźwiny? What do you think Sophia?
-Barb
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:02 pm
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| BarbOslo wrote: | Hi,
It looks like the place is in line 2. Jaźwiny? What do you think Sophia?
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Hi Barb,
No, I think line 2 says "Farming."
We need to look at words underlined in red.
Sophia
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:13 pm
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It's from a death registration and the line that I underlined is "Birthplace of deceased". I'm assuming it's in Eastern Poland because she died in 1898 and that would have been the "Russian" section.
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:21 pm
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Okay. Where can I find this record? Do you have a link?
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:34 pm
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I have it as a .pdf and I'll try and upload that.
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:11 pm
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Do you have anything to direct us to the location? Other documents? Manifest... We are talking about an enormously large area.
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:29 pm
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Hi LuAnn and Barb,
Just going by instinct, here, but I believe the page of death records is, in itself, not the primary record. I believe that there were individual death records given to someone who wrote it all down in a ledger. LuAnn, if you scroll page by page through them, you might tell me if you share that opinion - - is it very uniform handwriting, all by the same person? And if you scroll through and see other people who were from European countries, do any of them include the word "Europe" in the line for birthplace of deceased? I ask this because I have a hunch that this scribe saw a written document that said "Russian Empire" and read it as "Russia Europe." This makes me think that there will be problems with the spelling of the name of the town, too. Certainly, I read the first letter as M based on other capital M's on the page. It is a long name for a town. I can't help but wonder, is it possible that we are right back to Miedzyrzeca? When I go to Geneteka, there are many people with the surname Kieruczenko in Miedzyrzeca.
What do you think?
Sophia
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:00 pm
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Sophia, I thought exactly the same, after I disconnected LuAnn's post yesterday with this one.
-Barb
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Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:50 pm
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Miedzyrzeca makes sense as this person's husband was from there and all their children were born there. I just didn't see that in the way it was written. That's why it's always good to have someone else look at things with a different pair of eyes  Thanks again Barb and Sophia.
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2024 12:41 pm
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| LuAnn wrote: | | Miedzyrzeca makes sense as this person's husband was from there and all their children were born there. I just didn't see that in the way it was written. That's why it's always good to have someone else look at things with a different pair of eyes Thanks again Barb and Sophia. |
Hi LuAnn,
I am glad you posted the question. Frankly, I don't think anyone would be able to actually READ that town name on that document, including the very person who wrote it all those years ago. We can only deduce what it might be, and that only because you had posted your other question about Miedzyrzeca. That was a bit of good luck!
All the best,
Sophia
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