KarenJones
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:00 pm
Post subject: Very little request for information. Russian Cyrillic Recor
I am having trouble with a few word translations on this somewhat poor quality MARRIAGE record. This document was provided to me and was not available on Geneteka or GenBaza. So, it is all I have. Also, the document is long. I purposefully snipped it into two images so that it might be read more easily.
It is obviously critically important to know the birth village of my Great Grandparents. If not, there is little hope I will ever find them.
Target Ancestors: Groom: Pawel Skrzypecki, and parents Karol and Magdalena (Chonjka or variant surname).
Bride: Agnieska Paul, and parents Herman Paul and also Anna nee Paul.
WHAT does the record say about the place of birth for the bride and the groom?
Is the place implied or does it specifically say the village where they were born?
Does the document actually provide the surname of Pawel's mother as Magdalena Chonjka?
Does it mention the parent's occupations?
THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I AM LOOKING FOR. I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING ELSE.
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 12:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Very little request for information. Russian Cyrillic R
| KarenJones wrote: | I am having trouble with a few word translations on this somewhat poor quality MARRIAGE record. This document was provided to me and was not available on Geneteka or GenBaza. So, it is all I have. Also, the document is long. I purposefully snipped it into two images so that it might be read more easily.
It is obviously critically important to know the birth village of my Great Grandparents. If not, there is little hope I will ever find them.
Target Ancestors: Groom: Pawel Skrzypecki, and parents Karol and Magdalena (Chonjka or variant surname).
Bride: Agnieska Paul, and parents Herman Paul and also Anna nee Paul.
WHAT does the record say about the place of birth for the bride and the groom?
Is the place implied or does it specifically say the village where they were born?
Does the document actually provide the surname of Pawel's mother as Magdalena Chonjka?
Does it mention the parent's occupations?
THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I AM LOOKING FOR. I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING ELSE.
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I am working on it.
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My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU 
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
Joined: 28 Jun 2014
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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2025 2:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Very little request for information. Russian Cyrillic R
| KarenJones wrote: | I am having trouble with a few word translations on this somewhat poor quality MARRIAGE record. This document was provided to me and was not available on Geneteka or GenBaza. So, it is all I have. Also, the document is long. I purposefully snipped it into two images so that it might be read more easily.
It is obviously critically important to know the birth village of my Great Grandparents. If not, there is little hope I will ever find them.
Target Ancestors: Groom: Pawel Skrzypecki, and parents Karol and Magdalena (Chonjka or variant surname).
Bride: Agnieska Paul, and parents Herman Paul and also Anna nee Paul.
WHAT does the record say about the place of birth for the bride and the groom?
Is the place implied or does it specifically say the village where they were born?
Does the document actually provide the surname of Pawel's mother as Magdalena Chonjka?
Does it mention the parent's occupations?
THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I AM LOOKING FOR. I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING ELSE.
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Młodzieszyn
It happened in the village of Młodzieszyn, on October 28th/Nocember 9th, 1884, at 2 p.m.
We make it known that in the presence of the witnesses, Dionizy Goszczyński, a worker, 44 years old and Feliks Piskorski, a worker, 30 years old, both living in the village of Młodzieszyn, a religious marriage was concluded on this day, between:
Paweł Skrzypecki, a single man, a worker, who was born in the village of Biedrzychowice located in the country of Prudnik, a son of the spouses: Karol Skrzypecki and Magdalena Skrzypecka nee Honka, workers living in the village of Biedrzychowice, 24 years old, living in the village of Młodzieszyn
and
Agnieszka Paul, a miss, born in the country of Deutsch Krone [nowadays: Wałcz] in the village of ??Lenenka??? [maybe Lebenke, nowadays: Stara Łubianka], a daughter of Herman and Anna nee Paul, the Paul spouses, 19 years old, living at her parents' in the village of Młodzieszyn.
This marriage was preceded by the thee banns of marriage, announced in the local parish church, on: September 30th, October 1st and 14th/October 12th, 19th and 26th of the current year.
Bride's father, who was present at drafting the marriage act, gave his oral permission for this marriage.
The newlyweds declared they did not enter into any prenuptial agreement.
The religious marriage ceremony was performer by the undersigned priest.
This act was read to the newlyweds and the witnesses and due to their illiteracy it was signed by Us only.
Priest Antoni Morski, the administrator of the Młodzieszyn parish.
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My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 5:13 am
Post subject: Re: Very little request for information. Russian Cyrillic R
| KarenJones wrote: | I am having trouble with a few word translations on this somewhat poor quality MARRIAGE record. This document was provided to me and was not available on Geneteka or GenBaza. So, it is all I have. Also, the document is long. I purposefully snipped it into two images so that it might be read more easily.
It is obviously critically important to know the birth village of my Great Grandparents. If not, there is little hope I will ever find them.
Target Ancestors: Groom: Pawel Skrzypecki, and parents Karol and Magdalena (Chonjka or variant surname).
Bride: Agnieska Paul, and parents Herman Paul and also Anna nee Paul.
WHAT does the record say about the place of birth for the bride and the groom?
Is the place implied or does it specifically say the village where they were born?
Does the document actually provide the surname of Pawel's mother as Magdalena Chonjka?
Does it mention the parent's occupations?
THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I AM LOOKING FOR. I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING ELSE.
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Hi Karen,
Since you were able to translate most of the document yourself, you already knew that certain pieces of it appear in both Russian and Polish. In particular, the maiden name of Pawel's mother Magdalena does appear twice, and while Marcel has rendered it as Honka, it appears to me to be written as "z Chunków" meaning from the Chunka (or maybe Chonka) family. I do not see the first letter as H. Chonka is not a particularly Polish surname. There are quite a few Polish surnames that begin with Chojn... (but that j does not go after the n, as you had written it). However, I don't think Magdalena's name is one of the Chojn... names. Rather, I think it is a German name which the person writing the document was trying to capture the sound of. So, perhaps Honke or Hunke. I do not think in German you will find it beginning with Ch....
I do not read Russian, and I assume that Marcel was transliterating the name as he saw it in Russian. I am only commenting on what I saw as the Polish representation of the name in your document.
Wishing you good luck in tracing the family farther back,
Sophia
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
Joined: 28 Jun 2014
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 7:39 am
Post subject: Re: Very little request for information. Russian Cyrillic R
| Sophia wrote: | | KarenJones wrote: | I am having trouble with a few word translations on this somewhat poor quality MARRIAGE record. This document was provided to me and was not available on Geneteka or GenBaza. So, it is all I have. Also, the document is long. I purposefully snipped it into two images so that it might be read more easily.
It is obviously critically important to know the birth village of my Great Grandparents. If not, there is little hope I will ever find them.
Target Ancestors: Groom: Pawel Skrzypecki, and parents Karol and Magdalena (Chonjka or variant surname).
Bride: Agnieska Paul, and parents Herman Paul and also Anna nee Paul.
WHAT does the record say about the place of birth for the bride and the groom?
Is the place implied or does it specifically say the village where they were born?
Does the document actually provide the surname of Pawel's mother as Magdalena Chonjka?
Does it mention the parent's occupations?
THANK YOU. THAT IS ALL I AM LOOKING FOR. I THINK I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TRANSLATE EVERYTHING ELSE.
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Hi Karen,
Since you were able to translate most of the document yourself, you already knew that certain pieces of it appear in both Russian and Polish. In particular, the maiden name of Pawel's mother Magdalena does appear twice, and while Marcel has rendered it as Honka, it appears to me to be written as "z Chunków" meaning from the Chunka (or maybe Chonka) family. I do not see the first letter as H. Chonka is not a particularly Polish surname. There are quite a few Polish surnames that begin with Chojn... (but that j does not go after the n, as you had written it). However, I don't think Magdalena's name is one of the Chojn... names. Rather, I think it is a German name which the person writing the document was trying to capture the sound of. So, perhaps Honke or Hunke. I do not think in German you will find it beginning with Ch....
I do not read Russian, and I assume that Marcel was transliterating the name as he saw it in Russian. I am only commenting on what I saw as the Polish representation of the name in your document.
Wishing you good luck in tracing the family farther back,
Sophia |
As for the surname Honka, I am almoust 100% sure I read it right. Besides this surname appears in the place where Paweł was born.
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My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
PAYPAL: [email protected]
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KarenJones
Joined: 24 May 2019
Replies: 31
Location: Alaska, United StatesBack to top |
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2025 9:58 am
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