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Blue

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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2026 6:16 pm Post subject: Marriage of Anna Grahl and Friedrich Netlitz

Can someone please translate the 1885 marriage record for Anna Grahl and Friedrich Netlitz?

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TorSee

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2026 10:29 am Post subject:

I've attached both the German text, as far as I could make it out, and the English translation.

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Blue

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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2026 5:34 pm Post subject: Marriage of Anna Grahl and Friedrich Netlitz

Thank you very much TorSee for both the German and English translations.
Could Anna's date of birth be the 19th? Could her address be 6 Christianistrasse? And could her father Carl's occupation be a factor (manager)?

TorSee

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2026 4:19 am Post subject: Marriage of Anna Grahl and Friedrich Netlitz

Hi Blue,
you are right: The date of birth is the 19th ("neunzehnter"), and indeed also today there is a street in Kiel named "Christianistraße".
Indeed one could read the father's occupation as "Faktor", but I don't know what it is.

Blue

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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2026 7:12 am Post subject:

Thanks again TorSee, much appreciated.

Louie

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Posted: 7 Days ago at 2:11 pm Post subject: Wonderful German Script!

I know, too much info.
Need help in at least 4 ? marks.
Have this so far to give you an idea of where I am going.
Evidently, this forum does not like Sutterlin script

Twardawa
Septmbr

Caspair
Blasius FilipczykTwardawa
CarolinaLamatsch

Michael KwossekTwardawa
Ignatz DziadekOrganist
Alex NamysloSchwes-
terwitz.

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1796 Der 20th Septembr
Sind allhier von mir G.D. copulirt getraut (und ?
der ehrbare Junggesell Caspair ehel. Sohn des.
Blasius Filipczyk der bauer zu Twardawa mit
der ehrbaren Carolina geb. Lamatsch hinter-
lassenen Wittwe nach dem Verstorbenen
Michael Kwossek Schullehrer in Twardawa
Zeugen Ignatz Dziadek Organist zu ?
und Alex Namyslo ___?____zu Schwes-
terwitz.

TRANSLATION

Twardawa 20 (1796)
Were here by me, G.D. , joined in marriage the honorable bachelor Caspair, legitimate son of Blasius Filipczyk, a farmer in Twardawa, with the honorable Carolina, née Lamatsch, left- behind widow of the deceased Michael Kwossek, schoolteacher in Twardawa. Witnesses: Ignatz Dziadek, organist in ?
Krzek, and Alex Namyslo, ? in Schwesterwitz.

NOTES
G.D. The local priest, George Damick
ehel.=ehelich legitimate
Bride was 20, so born about 1776
Groom 23 , so born about 1773

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Posted: 6 Days ago at 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Wonderful German Script!

Louie wrote:

I know, too much info.
Need help in at least 4 ? marks.
Have this so far to give you an idea of where I am going.
Evidently, this forum does not like Sutterlin script

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1796 Der 20th Septembr
Sind allhier von mir G.D. copulirt getraut (und ?
der ehrbare Junggesell Caspair ehel. Sohn des.
Blasius Filipczyk der bauer zu Twardawa mit
der ehrbaren Carolina geb. Lamatsch hinter-
lassenen Wittwe nach dem Verstorbenen
Michael Kwossek Schullehrer in Twardawa
Zeugen Ignatz Dziadek Organist zu ?
und Alex Namyslo ___?____zu Schwes-
terwitz.

TRANSLATION

Twardawa 20 (1796)
Were here by me, G.D. , joined in marriage the honorable bachelor Caspair, legitimate son of Blasius Filipczyk, a farmer in Twardawa, with the honorable Carolina, née Lamatsch, left- behind widow of the deceased Michael Kwossek, schoolteacher in Twardawa. Witnesses: Ignatz Dziadek, organist in ?
Krzek, and Alex Namyslo, ? in Schwesterwitz.

NOTES
G.D. The local priest, George Damick
ehel.=ehelich legitimate
Bride was 20, so born about 1776
Groom 23 , so born about 1773

Hi Louie,

Always so nice to see you on the forum! I cannot help with everything you are asking about, but I can assist with two place names. For Ignatz Dziadek, the organist, his place name begins at the end of one line of text and continues at the beginning of the next line of text: Waltzen which today is Walce.

For Michael Kwossek, you have him as being a school teacher in Twardawa but I believe he is from nearby Trawniki instead.

Best regards,
Sophia

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Kmichael8

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Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2026 5:25 am Post subject: Re: Wonderful German Script!

Louie wrote:

Hello Louie,

In addition to Sophia’s geographical remarks some minor points from me:

The last two words in the first line of your transcription you read as „copulirt getraut (und ?“. I would assume it just means „ehelich getraut“. It sounds a bit like “doppelt gemoppelt” or redundant, but can be found often in marriage records.

The given name of the groom’s father looks like “Blasius” which is a quite common name, instead the priest wrote Blasias.

Regarding the occupation of the groom’s father and of the witness I am unsure. We are in Silesia and they often differentiated there between “Bauer”, “Gärtner” and “Häusler” (farmer, gardener and cottager). What is written in front of the occupation and looks like “Fr” might be an acronym for “Frei” or free and not bondsmen. Hence the groom’s father might have been a Fr[ei] Bauer and the witness a Fr[ei]gärtner. As I said, I’m unsure. For more clarity it might help to have a look at other entries from this church book.

Best regards,
Michael

Louie

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Posted: 11 hours ago at 10:17 pm Post subject: German

Need help with at least 4 ?
Q1 The word before Hedwig
Q2 and Q3 Hausler?
Q4 The word after Jurek, Hausler? Why is not the feminine for used i.e. Hauslerin?

Thanks much,
louie

TRANSLITERATION
1796
Dambrowka
den 8ten dito Februr
Dambrowka den 8ten dito
Ist ein Knäbl. von dem Häußl. Martin Welna eh. ?. Hed-
wig geborne Wochnikin gebohren, und von dem H. Pfarrer C Krause
Namens Wallentin getauft worden, wobey als Pathen gewesen
Caspar Dambowy ?. Thomas Cichon ?. Susanna Jurkin ?.

TRANSLATION
1796
Dambrowka
the 8th ditto February

A boy was born to the cottager Martin Welna and his lawful wife ? Hed-
wig, née Wochnikin, and was baptized by the Rev. Pastor C(arol). Krause
given the name Wallentin, the godparents were
Caspar Dambowy, cottager, Thomas Cichon, cottager, and (Godmother) Susanna Jurek. female cottager,

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NOTES
Dito – ditto “Same as above” i.e. February
8 Feb is the date of baptism not necessarily the date of birth.
Häußler" (cottagers), indicates they owned a small house and perhaps a very small plot of land, but likely had to work for larger farmers or estates to make a living.
Eh= ehelich, which means legitimate

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Posted: 4 hours ago at 5:26 am Post subject: Re: German

Louie wrote:

Hi Louie,

The author of this snippet uses the genitive case, often acronyms and the ÿ in combination with an ‘e’. Applied to your text, the first line reads: “Ist ein Knäbl[ein] von des Häuslers Martin Welna ehe Weÿbe [Eheweib] …”. The sponsors were Häusl[er] or a Häusl[erin]. Using the shortened words you will not recognize the male or female ending but get this information from the given names of the sponsors, respectively.

Regards,
Michael

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