Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:45 pm
Post subject: Szczesny/ Iwaszko of Augustow
Anyone have any info on either Szczesny or Iwaszko family found in Augustow through the 1880's?
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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:24 pm
Post subject: Re: Szczesny/ Iwaszko of Augustow
| Wisniewskip wrote: | | Anyone have any info on either Szczesny or Iwaszko family found in Augustow through the 1880's? |
Hi,
Geneteka database has:
for Szczesny: 66 births, 34 marriages and 30 deaths (Agustow only; there are more in nearby places);
for Iwaszko: 1 marriage, 4 deaths.
Gilberto
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:16 am
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Yes, thank you. That is where I found the Szczesny Iwaszko connection. I could not find any other listing of Jozefa Szczesny other than her marriage to Piotr Iwaszko in 1887. I'm looking for her birth, or death record as Szczesna or Iwaszka. My grandmother Anna Iwaszka was born in 1891 and I have not found her birth record in the recently archived Augustow records. My great grandfather's parish was Punsk (Wolynce) and he was a forest gamekeeper.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:24 am
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I do not think my grandmother had the same mother as any of her siblings. She inherited property in Poland but could not afford to keep it and of course could not go freely in and out of Poland.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:16 am
Post subject: Re: Szczesny/ Iwaszko of Augustow
Hi, I copied the thread below from your other posting. It would be a good idea to keep this discussion in one place so you can keep track of the conversation:
| Wisniewskip wrote: | | Looking for info on my grandmother, Anna Josephine Iwaszko, born in 1891. My grandmother was born in Suwalska(Gubernia) region and immigrated to Shenandoah, PA after her mother died. Her father, Piotr Iwaszko, born in 1853, immigrated on May 29, 1895 on the Oldenberg. My grandmother inherited property in Poland, but did not claim it because of travel restrictions on Eastern Europe by the USSR. I would like to find who her mother was and where my grandmother was from. She said it was a beautiful place. She had relatives in Scranton, PA at some point. |
I think there are a few clues here that someone can help you with. Can you answer the following questions about your grandmother?
1. You said your grandmother did not remember her mother because she died when your grandmother was young. Did you mean that she did not remember her mother as a person, or that she didn't remember her mother's full name? Do you know who raised her?
2. When do you think your grandmother came to the USA?
3. From your family stories, did your grandmother travel alone, or with someone in the family?
4. Did she have siblings who came to the US? What were their names and birth years?
5. What was her husband's name and where/when did they marry?
5. Have you found her in any census records? What years?
I think this is enough to start some good conversation here.
Shellie
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:03 am
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She was raised by her father and a stepmother. Her mother died in Poland and someone unknown to us brought her to this country when she was very young. She did not have the same mother as her elder sister Ewa, and her only other siblings were from her father and step mother. None of the census records have any info on her mother. I have mining records for death of first husband, cemetery headstones for her relatives, census records etc. I cannot find her sister Ewa or my grandmother on the passenger lists.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:21 am
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Anna's sister was Ewa Iwaszko born in 1882, married Jan Arinowicz (correctly spelled Aranowicz) in the 1890's and then to Peter Yelinewicz (Jeleniewicz) in 1903 after Jan Aranowicz died in the mines. Ewa Iwaszko Aranowicz Jeliniewicz died in 1918 of the Spanish Flu.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:42 am
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The census records would not have the name of her mother, but it usually has the year of immigration. That can help narrow down your grandmother's arrival. Since Ewa was 9 years older, perhaps your grandmother traveled with her? It would be interesting to see if they have the same year (or nearly the same, since people did not always remember) of immigration on their census records.
The Polish and Lithuanian versions of your grandmother's surname may be spelled differently. I could not find my Lithuanian great-grandfather for many years and then by a stoke of luck, I found that he and his brother were boarders in my great-aunt's house before he was married. The census record had his name in the Polish spelling. With that I found his passenger record under this spelling.
Also, consider the feminine spelling of Polish surnames. Anna and Ewa might be listed as something like Iwaszkowa, or Iwaszka. I would use the Steve Morse Gold form and search "name starts with" for passenger Ann Iwaszk - leaving off the end of the names. This will give more results to examine. See the form here: www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellisgold.html
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:57 am
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The immigration record for my grandfather was listed as Iwaszka even though that is the feminine ending and his name was Iwaszko.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:58 am
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By immigration record, I mean passenger list.
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:07 pm
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I did find the marriage record of my great grandparents on Geneteka Genealodzy PL
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:30 pm
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| Wisniewskip wrote: | | Josephine Schesnowicz was listed on the family search marriage records for my grandparents. I think Szczesny is the correct spelling so many names were misspelled. My aunt Helen's marriage info had my grandmother listed as Wisniewicz, which of course it would have been Wisniewski or Wisniewska. I think I finally have something solid. |
That's great news! Does the LDS FamilySearch library have films for Augustow?
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:39 pm
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I don't know
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Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:18 pm
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If anyone knows where to find vital statistics for Augustow for 1891 through 1895, I would appreciate the information. Geneteka does not include those years.
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:28 am
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http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/63/148/0/?q=august%C3%B3w+XSKANro:t&rpp=100&wynik=57&rpp=100&page=1#tabJednostki .
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