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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:34 am
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Hi Stacey,
I looked at Erazem's 1930 census record on Ancestry.com and I see that he lived in Pittsburgh. My family emigrated to Pittsburgh also. It looks like there is a notation on the census record that by 1930 he had filed his papers for naturalization. If that's correct, then there is a pretty good chance that his papers are on file with the USCIS - US Citizenship and Immigration Service (Formerly the INS). It will cost about 65 dollars to finally get the info, but for me, it was the only document that provided me with a village name to finally locate the birthplace of my grandfather's siblings.
You can read more here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=657
Stasik is a name that appears in the village Odrowaz. You can read about Odrowaz here (Stasik is highlighted) http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=381&highlight=Stasik
I hope this helps!
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:44 am
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Has anyone ever requested Stasik research. I am having a heck of a time finding anything out about Mary or Elizabeth. I do not have their maiden names and no one seems to know. I was told that an aunt Clair or Betty had gone to Poland and researched but they are no longer with us. I would take any info on this family, I am not a rich woman and can not afford 65 bucks for paperwork I am relying on what my family can rememebr and stuff I am able to locate on the computer for free. So I would love to have contact with Polish family memebrs or any family members from Stasik family. Thank you for the info you have provided.
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:29 am
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I sympathize with you - 65 dollars is an alarmingly high amount of money and I agonized over whether to spend it or not. I've found it very difficult to research my family in Pennsylvania. Without an exact date, you can't request vital records from the state - unless you pay them about 35 dollars to do a search.
[Update: Beginning in 2012, PA death and birth record indices are online.
Read about it here: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=1337 ]
The census record from 1930 shows that Erazem's children were born in Pennsylvania - so it's possible that there would be some clues in the Pittsburgh Catholic Diocese archives. Again, that's no going to be free (about 15 dollars), but certainly not as expensive as USCIS - but also might not provide a village name.
Have you searched for Erazem's name in any ship manifests? The ones from the 1890's don't have quite the detail as later manifests, but you might find a village name there.
As far as I know, you are the first to post a thread about the Stasik surname. If you can provide any more details about your family, someone may recognize something. Without some clues about where your Stasik family lived in Poland, the task will be challenging. I would continue to interview your aunts and cousins for any small bit of info. The census shows that Erazem had several children, so each of those arms of your tree are potential sources of photos, stories, etc. I tracked down several of my cousins from my great-great-grandfather's side and was amazed at the info they had.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:34 pm
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About the 1930 census – Your gggrandfather lived at 107 Ruch Street. He lived there in 1920 as well. But not in 1900 – I think maybe Ruch street homes were not yet built before then. I was wrong about the Northside - he lived near the intersection of 5th ave and Kirkpatrick Street near the present site of the University of Pittsburgh and Terrace Village in the Hill District.
Notice that in 1910 the head of this household was listed as Michael Stisik. Do you recall him ever being referred to as Michael? It might have been an error by the census-taker. The 1910 census also shows how many years your Michael and Elizabeth were married, so if you don't already have a date, this will narrow it down for you when you search for a marriage record.
If you don't have these records, I can send you a link to view better copies.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:43 pm
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Main link to the maps of your gggrandfather’s neighborhood.
http://tinyurl.com/Ruch-St-area
At the above link, Plate 3 from 1910 shows the lot where your grandfather lived. Plate 13 and 13B actually show your grandfather’s name on #107 Ruch Street. I have attached close-up images.
Ruch street is now gone and some of the street names have moved since your gggrandfather lived there. On google maps, it looks like the house was roughly at the last intersection on Moultrie street before it ends near the Warren K Branch Park. I'm not sure why the google map will not show on here, but you can also google Moultrie Street Pittsburgh yourself and the map should come up.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:04 pm
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There is a good chance that this is your gggrandfather - papers filed to begin naturalization in Dec 1905.
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:30 pm
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I agree with Shellie that this is probably your gggrandfather's petition for naturalization or at least declaration of intention. If he had filed papers but was not yet naturalized in 1930 it's possible he never became a citizen before he died.
According to the Family History Library (in Salt Lake City) Catalog they own the microfilm of the Naturalization Records (Pennsylvania - Western District) 1820-1935. These are contained on 437 reels of microfilm! According to the catalog record for this microfilm at the Allen County Public Library Genealogy Center Catalog Reel 111 contains records from Oct. 16, 1905 to Dec. 18, 1905 (FHL US/CANFilm 1605760 ) and Reel 112 contains records from Dec. 19, 1905 to Jan. 20, 1906 (FHL US/CAN Film 1605761) - right now I can't see Shellie's image so not sure what the exact date was in Dec. 1905. If you have a local LDS FamilySearch Center near where you live (you can search here: https://www.familysearch.org/locations ), you can go there to request microfilm (the FHL # given above) be sent from the main library in Salt Lake City for a small fee (maybe $5 per reel). The microfilm is then sent to your local FamilySearch Center where you use their equipment to view the film & make copies of microfilm records of interest (again for a small fee maybe 25 cents per page).
If you could find a way to access his marriage records - based on his children's ages in 1930 you could make an educated guess about the year of his second marriage which probably happened in Pittsburgh if he was living there in 1910 - that would hopefully show the bride's maiden name and her baptismal town as well as his baptismal town. Good luck!
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:04 am
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| stacey wrote: | | Gr. Gr. Grandfather was Erazem Stasik he was married to Mary ?? they had 5 children John, Stella ?, William, cecelia, sylvester. Mary passed away and he remarried a woman named Elizabeth they had 5 more kids Mildred, sofie, adam, henry and joe. I have seen paperwork that said Erazem immigrated 1898 to Pennsylvania. : |
Stacey,
I found an ERAS STASIK in the "Hamburger Passagierlisten 1850-1834" (in German) who traveled from Hamburg, Germany to New York on 7 Dec 1887 on board of the steamship "Sorrento". He was 30 years old at the time, born abt. 1857, laborer. His last residence is indexed as BRZEZINY, Hungary. There is also a SYLVESTER STASIK who traveled from Hamburg, Germany to New York on 18 Oct 1906 on board of the steamship "Blücher". He was 24 years old at the time, born abt. 1882, farmer and day laborer. His last residence is also indexed as BRZEZINY, ethnicity "Austria". There's a hint to a "Slyvaster Stasik" in the 1920 US Census. Unfortunately, I don’t have access to census records, but perhaps Shellie can try to find the record for you to see what it says.
I also found a Stanislaw Stasik in the Ellis Island database, 28 years old, born abt. 1877, laborer, married, who traveled to the US on board of the SS Rhein that left Bremen, Germany on 1 April 1905 and arrived in New York on 13 April 1905. His last residence was BRZEZINY, his destination was Pittsburg, PA. He traveled with Jozef Swiech from Brzeziny who stated that he was going to join his brother Eugeniusz Swiech, while Stanislaw Stasik indicated that he was also going to join his step-brother Eugeniusz Swiech at 2213, Sjewus Street (?).
Again a Stanislaw Stasik from Brzeziny (the same Stanislaw? The ship manifest doesn't say if he has been to the US before, but the age is about the same), 32 years old, born abt. 1878, farm laborer, ethnicity Polish/Austria, traveled from Bremen, Germany to New York on board of the SS Main that left Bremen on 29 Jan 1910 and arrived in New York on 14 Feb 1910. His last residence was Brzeziny, Galicia with his wife Marianna Stasik, his destination in the US was his brother Sylvester Stasik at 107 Ruch Street, Pittsburg, PA.
I searched the Ellis Island database by town for Brzeziny emigrants and there are several Stasiks and Swiechs (partly misspelled). I haven't checked all of them, just saw that some went to Chicago also.
These are just some tidbits of information that I hope will help you in your further research. I'm sure there is more information out there, e.g. possible family connections to Chicago, it just takes time and a lot of patience to dig it all up and put the pieces together.
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:01 am
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I love it when we put our heads together and break through these brick walls!!!
Stacey - I'm anxious to hear whether this info has led you forward. Have you ever heard of Brzeziny associated with your family? This may be the actual location you are looking for, but it also might be the nearest large town to your actual ancestral village. Hopefully the LDS family history center has microfilm of church records for this area.
Polish Librarian and Ute:
Thanks so much for joining in on this exploration. Looks like we've brought Stacey much closer to finding her ancestral village! What great luck to have 107 Ruch Street included on Stanislaw's ship manifest.
Thanks for providing the info to find the naturalization microfilm - it will be a huge help to me with my family efforts as well.
Shellie
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:16 pm
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Stacey,
I'm attaching some records for you -- do any of those ring a bell for you?
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:12 am
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OMGosh, yes I found the name Elizabeth Ogrodrick on friday and I do think that this is them. I have heard that they called him Eric not Michael but I will have to check further into it. They said that the family talked more about the mom side of the the family than the dads side. So info is very rare. I was basically given very little to go on and now with this I have some reading to do. I will most definatley let everyone know what I come up with also, Ya know Erazm was married to Mary before elizabeth I have yet to find info on her, they had 4 possibly 5 children. Thank you all evey one really this is so appreciated, I can not wait to look at these recoeds and yes if you can send me files that I can veiw better that would be great. If anyone comes across anything else pklease contact me. I am so very excited. I only know my moms mom, my Busha and she is up there in age and can no longer speak so it is hard to get info and my gr. aunt, does not remember much so this will be great to share with them. Thanks again and I will be in touch, I check every day so I will be watchin and waiting to tell you all what I discover.
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PolishLibrarianPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:05 pm
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Stacey~ I’ve looked closer at the images Shellie and Ute attached. The 1910 census one is quite telling. Michael Stisik is age 45, birthplace is Austria Polish, this is his second marriage & they’ve been married 4 years. Elizabeth is 31, born Russia Polish, has been pregnant 2 times and bore 1 child. Note that the children of his first marriage – William (17 – born PA), John (15 – born PA) and James (7 – born PA) list their mother’s birthplace as Russia Polish, the same as their step-mother, not necessarily their mother, but it says they were born in Pennsylvania which is good to know. John & Elizabeth’s child is Edward age 11/12 (presumably the same Adam age 10 in 1920 census) – since 1910 census was Apr. 1910, he was born in May 1909. The 1920 census was taken on Jan. 3 1920 so he would have been 10 at the time. Of course Michael, now Erazm Stasiak in 1920 is 65 instead of 55 (it does indicate he was naturalized but the year of naturalization is not legible), but that is the way of this kind of recorded data. BUT the most interesting thing about the 1910 Census is who else was living at 107 Ruch St. (Shellie cut most of this off in her image) – son-in-law Steve Cukura (2 , daughter Sadie (22) married 2 years and granddaughter Irene (1 10/12). I’m guessing Sadie is Stella – those females are so hard to track, but here you have her married surname. Erazm/Michael lived in Pittsburgh’s 4th ward.
In the 1920 census there is a Sylvester Stasik (39) who immigrated in 1907, is married to Mary (32) with children John (12), Joseph (10), Stanley (7), Michael (5) and Frank (3). He was born in Poland (est. 1881). They’re living at 3 Lawn (spelling???) in Pittsburgh’s 4th Ward. Since Erazem’s other children were supposedly born in PA and quite a bit younger than Sylvester (7, 12, 14 and 22 years younger) and Sylvester didn’t arrive until 1907, he may not be Erazem’s son.
The 1920 Census also has a John Stasiak (27) married to Bertha (24) with 2 children Theodore (2) and Anthony (<1) living at 1304 California Ave. in Pittsburgh’s 21st Ward. This could be the 1910 Michael Stisik’s son John who was 15 in 1910. BUT in 1920 it says he was born in Poland, immigrated in 1896 and was naturalized in 1906. So is one of the census reports wrong, or in 1910 did they assume Penn. as the birthplace of all the children, when in fact perhaps John and William were actually born in Poland. It is a mystery, but in 1910 both Michael & Elizabeth are listed as speaking Polish so it’s possible the eldest son reported the data and did so incorrectly.
It seems to me you need to find the marriage record of Erazem & Elizabeth and then the baptismal records of their children – likely all at the same church since they resided at 107 Ruch for at least 20 years. Ute image from Family Search should help you find the microfilm records at the Family History Library, so you can borrow the film & use at your local FamilySearch Center.
Good luck!
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:14 am
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so confusing. I know Erazem had a John (child) with his first wife mary. John married a Stella I do not know if they had children or not. Do not know anything about a stanley, frank or sadie. Erazems son was Sylvester William Stasik, he sometime made a name change to Sylvester William Stacey. I also sw Erazem Had a name change aslo to Stacey. One more tidbit I got last night from my gr. Aunt, she said she heard the town of Poznan mentioned alot when she was growing up. Im not sure if it was stasik side or or zamecki side of the family because we were talking about both sides last night. But we were talking about erazem when she said it. So here is some more info if anyone is still researching my mother is trying to help now she is going to find me the marriage info and baptismal records.
These are the things I know for sure
Erazem (Eric) Stasik married Mary they had they had 4 children John, William, cecelia, sylvester. Mary passed away and he remarried a woman named Elizabeth they had 5 more kids Mildred, sofie, adam, henry and joe.
The son John Married a Stella.
Sylvester married Lillian (Zamecki)
This is all I know for sure. My aunt did verify the 107 Ruch st as where they lived.That is it
But we now have a toen name so maybe someone will find something new. Thank you all this has been quite a hard journey and its not over yet. Thank you all
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:26 pm
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Oops! Sorry about cutting off the 1910 Census. I have replaced it with another image. I've sent Stacy a link to view the image online. Thanks everyone for sharing your valuable expertise!
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