Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:00 pm
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| hopskip wrote: |
Amazing! Thank you Trish! And thank you Barb for pointing that out because I was just about to start looking in Kopanie.. and Kopanie.. and Kopanie.  |
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:48 pm
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It is Grodzisko and not Rodzisko, as that was what was on Barbara's passenger list at Ellis Island 1899. There aren't as many Grodziskos as Kopanies, and I think I have a strong lead on where to find her birth record too, once I investigate this:
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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:24 pm
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| Thanks Trish! There are so many twists! No dates or names or place names match up anywhere. It is Grodzisko and not Rodzisko, as that was what was on Barbara's passenger list at Ellis Island 1899. There aren't as many Grodziskos as Kopanies, and I think I have a strong lead on where to find her birth record too, once I investigate this:
"Poland, Church Books, 1568-1990", database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6V9B-ZMB4 : 10 December 2022), Barbara Bak, 1875. I have the marriage record in the USA and will not have a problem getting any of the USA records-- it's mostly Antoni that I am struggling with because I only have "Joseph" as a lead for a parent, and no other records with clues about any family of his, his names and cities and dates are all off, as you noted... |
Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2023 2:32 pm
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:34 am
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Per the ship's manifest for Barbara, her father's given name looks like it begins with a "J". (I need another set of eyes to tell me the correct given name.) Trish |
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:37 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 5:39 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: |
| There's so many twists! But we must try to find Antoni and Barbara. Look at this. I found Kopanie is not far from Grodzisko. |
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:41 am
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Hi Trish and Hopskip, On the manifest for Barbara (Bąk) Kojder, I see her father's name as Jerzy. Best regards, Sophia |
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:56 am
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Hi Sophia, Barbara, and Hopskip, Sophia, thank you for verifying the father's name. Barbara, Good find! Hopskip, was there any information on their marriage record as to whom their parents are? Also, were they married in the Church? The Church record could provide the names of their parents. I found this on Geneteka, but I can't access it in order to view the records. https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=09pk&rid=8832&search_lastname=bak&search_name=barbara&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=1870&to_date=1880&rpp1=&ordertable= Maybe someone can help us access the records for the two Barbara's listed. Enjoy your day! Trish |
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:14 pm
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| I have access to those records, Trish. Unfortunately no father named Jerzy. Checked the specific dates of birth for Antoni and Barbara. They are not there, unless baptized found the place much later.
-Barb |
Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:38 pm
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If the father in either the 1875 or 1876 Geneteka records is Antonius, that may be her! The marriage record that I have is just the docket, which has no information on parents. They were married in Pittsburgh, presumably in a Catholic church, as they are buried in a Catholic Cemetery outside of Pittsburgh. The Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh keeps these records, so I have put in a records request- hoping that their marriage records might have some clues. I have no information about whether or not they knew each other in Poland, so I am not sure if I should be looking for Kopanies that are near Grodziskos (and there are a few of those too!) Antoni immigrated in 1893 and Barbara in May 1899. They were married very shortly after she arrived in Pittsburgh, in August 1899... |
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:43 am
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:40 am
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TIA!
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 12:34 pm
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| I received records from the diocese about all four of my Polish ancestors! Yay! There were some discrepancies (e.g. "Grodzisko", "Grodzisko Dolne") from one child's baptism record to the next. I will paste what I received below, but I am not sure where to go from here. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed to get their vital records from Poland. Every time I get more information, I just have more questions! TIA!
Marriage (Pittsburgh): Married 08 Aug 1899 Antonium Kojder from Galicia Parents: Joseph Kojder and Catharinae Burda to Barbaram Bąk from Galicia Parents: Andreae Bąk and Maryannae Maj Baptisms: (Pittsburgh 1910) Father – Antonio Kajder from Kopanie, Galicia Mother – Barbara Bąk from Grodzisko, Galicia (Pittsburgh 1911) Father – Antonio Kajder from Kopanie, Galicia Mother – Barbara Bank from Grodzisko Dolne, Galicia ....................................................................... (Pittsburgh 1914) Father – Adam Zabłocki from Wasilowka, G. Sunl. Mother – Eva Nadolna from the same place (Pittsburgh 1919) Father – Adamus Zabłocki from Krol. Ras. Mother – Eva Nadolna from Sul. Gub. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:41 pm
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| hopskip wrote: |
| I received records from the diocese about all four of my Polish ancestors! Yay! There were some discrepancies (e.g. "Grodzisko", "Grodzisko Dolne") from one child's baptism record to the next. I will paste what I received below, but I am not sure where to go from here. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to proceed to get their vital records from Poland. Every time I get more information, I just have more questions! TIA!
Marriage (Pittsburgh): Married 08 Aug 1899 Antonium Kojder from Galicia Parents: Joseph Kojder and Catharinae Burda to Barbaram Bąk from Galicia Parents: Andreae Bąk and Maryannae Maj |
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