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Sophia
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:22 pm Post subject:

Regarding names, this list is showing the spelling IEVA as the Lithuanian form of Eve (Polish would be spelled Ewa) which fits nicely with the manifest, above.
It gives ELENA as the Lithuanian name that comes closest to English spelling Ellen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Lithuanian_feminine_given_names

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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:29 pm Post subject:

Hi Everyone,

I just want to post this possible manifest for Vincent Jasewiz. He is on line #5. I need another set of eyes for the town of birth on page 2. Is it the same town as the manifest Sophia just posted?

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Trish

Possible Ship Manifest for Vincent Jasewicz
Name Vinzas Fuczwicz [Vinzas Juczwicz]
Gender Male
Race Lithuanian
Marital Status Single
Age 20
Birth Date 1891
Port of Departure Bremen, Germany
Last Residence Place Wyzbasoj, Russia
Final Destination Place Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania
Residence Place Russia
Arrival Date Mar 1911
Port of Arrival Baltimore, Maryland
Arrival Quarter Mar
Complexion Dark
Eye Color B
Hair Color Bld
Height 5 Feet 6 Inches
Money 52.00
Ship Name Chemnitz
Page number 148
Father Autonas Fuczwicz
Friend's Name Andrius Fuczvicz
Person in Old Country Name Autonas Fuczwicz (Antoni Juczwicz)
Person in Old Country Gender Male
Person in Old Country Residence Place Wyzbasoj,Suvalki,Russia
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in US Name Auduia Fucovia
Person in US Gender Male
Person in US Relationship Brother

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BarbOslo
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 1:48 pm Post subject:

Sophia wrote:

Hi everyone,
The manifest Monika found in January is an exceptionally good fit for Eva:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JN9D-8Y7
See line 7.
Sophia

Fits perfectly!
-B

Sophia
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:23 pm Post subject:

Hi Trish,
I do not think these two places are the same. For this Vinzas, his last residence (same as the current residence of his father, so we get to see it written twice) is in Suwalki, a place name beginning with "Wy...." that I cannot quite decipher. For the manifest for Eva, the last residence is indexed as "Promessy" and I have not looked where that is on a map but it does not seem to be a close match for the town of Vinzas.
OK, I see you are asking about page 2 with his place of birth... Rymeka?
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:44 pm Post subject:

Regarding the place name in Eva's manifest, could "Promessy" be a terrible spelling for Poniewiez (Polish spelling) which today is Panevėžys (Lithuanian spelling)?
Or should I switch to decaf coffee?

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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:48 pm Post subject:

The place where this Eva comes from is called Pronussy (Lithuanian Nupronys), I think.

-Barb

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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2024 2:53 pm Post subject:

BarbOslo wrote:

The place where this Eva comes from is called Pronussy (Lithuanian Nupronys), I think.

-Barb

Thanks, Barb.

So this is a place Jerry has already searched in Metrikai.

mm_88

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 4:00 am Post subject:

Hello everyone!

I checked stevemorse.org for passenger lists containing a town name similar to "Promessy". I found several more or less similar: Promys, Premes, Pramesy and a little bit different Premesisky - all those people were going to Scranton, PA or another town in Luzerne. These may be completely different cities, but maybe they traveled from one town to the same area in the USA?

Eva Marcinkewicz, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFYV-TZN
Anton Marzinkewitz, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJBC-K38
Joses Ananka, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFD9-SMS
Magdalena Jessewitzky, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFWC-6PF
Josas Meskewitz, https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JJBC-K38

According to this family tree https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G813-CDB and Josef Ananka's naturalization papers, his wife was born in Pramezys, Kaunas and I think this is a town that was written in his passenger list as Premes.

Do you think that Promessy (and Promys, Premes, Pramesy) could be Pramezys, Kaunas?

Have a nice day!
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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 5:36 am Post subject:

mm_88 wrote:

So glad you're back, Monika.
I want to believe (actually am very sure) that your January finding for Eva is correct. I think about this.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JN9D-8Y7
But I would read the place as Pronussy, not Promessy. In Lithuania the place is called Nupronys. I found parish 6 km from this place (Hanuszyszki - Onuškis) but do not see Eva's birth record. I checked the years 1888-90. Not even a surname that matches.
Could you see if you can find more parishes in the area?
Alternative is to look for place called Promessy. I we also check Sophia's suggestion - Panevėžys.

-Barb

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:40 am Post subject:

I look at the map and Pramezys is only 8 km from Udrija. It's a place Simon Krutulis came from. Randomness?
-Barb

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Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 12:08 pm Post subject:

BarbOslo wrote:

I look at the map and Pramezys is only 8 km from Udrija. It's a place Simon Krutulis came from. Randomness?
-Barb

Hi Barb

Hmm, maybe it's worth checking out. I think that the nearest parish is Balbieriškis? I don't know much about this area to be honest...
Edit: I think that it belongs to the parish Udrija https://vilkaviskiovyskupija.lt/dekanatai-ir-parapijos/alytaus-dekanatas/udrijos-svc-jezaus-sirdies-parapija/

I will try to find other parishes close to Nupronys, too.
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Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:34 pm Post subject:

mm_88 wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

I look at the map and Pramezys is only 8 km from Udrija. It's a place Simon Krutulis came from. Randomness?
-Barb

Hi Barb

Hi everyone!
Thank you all so much for your continued help with this, I really appreciate your time and expertise! I don't think I would have ever though of Panevėžys or Pramezys. I will look too and see if I can find anything promising there.

That would feel very random if she happened to be from a place so close to Simon! If I remember correctly, there weren't birth records available on ePaveldas for the possible years of Eva's birth, but I will double check to see what is.

I really like the manifest that you found Monika and was disappointed I couldn't find much around Nupronys. It seems like such a good fit!

Hope everyone is having a good day!
~jerry

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 10:01 am Post subject:

Hi everyone!

Just wanted to share a quick update; I have checked some records from Panevėžys. They were:
-https://www.epaveldas.lt/preview?id=1674%2F1%2F20 1890-1895 looked through 90-91
-https://www.epaveldas.lt/preview?id=1674%2F1%2F18 1886-1890
Both were titled Panevėžio RKB gimimo metrikų knyga (yra Velykiai) and from the same and the only one with online records near the area.

I saw some similar last names, but nothing that seemed to match. Now I will try to check Pramezys.

Hope everyone is having a good day!
~jerry

mm_88

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:37 pm Post subject:

Hi Jerry!

I was looking at Eva & Simon's marriage record. Witnesses were Moises Diksa and Marianna Dubickiene (?).

I think this is Moises https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LBT9-6BM
Could it be Marianna? https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G4C5-96L & https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GJX6-QG9
Possible Eva's relative?

I hope you will be able to find some trace of Eva in the records!
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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 2:58 pm Post subject:

It will be interesting to see if Jerry finds any family connections. Too bad there are not more specific places.

-Barb

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