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Nick Saunders



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Post Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:02 am      Post subject: Saunders/Sanders/Sandacz
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Hi, I'd be very grateful on some help in trying to confirm my 4th great grandfather.

I can confirm that my 3rd great grandfather was -

Harris (David) Saunders
1841–1907
BIRTH ABT 1841 • Warsaw, Poland
DEATH 16 OCT 1907 • Mile End Old Town, London
3rd great-grandfather

He was married to -

Dinah 'Cohen' Saunders
1841–1917
BIRTH 1841 • Berlin (F), Germany
DEATH 7 MAY 1917 • London
3rd great-grandmother

I have Harris father down on Ancestry.co.uk as

Marcus Nathan Sandacz/Saunders
1813–1905
BIRTH 1813 • Rush Poland British Subject
DEATH JANUARY 1905 • 1861 Census A Tailor 1881 Census A Restaurant Proprioritor
4th great-grandfather

I am unable to confirm this?

Would someone with more knowledge of ancestry be able to help me?

Thanks
Nick



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zefir454



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Location: Smolno Wielkie, Poland

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:47 pm      Post subject:
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Hi, Nick!
The surname "Sandacz" is very rare in Poland. It occurs only in two regions: Warsaw and Mazowieckie Voivodeship. I found a few people with this name, but unfortunately, they don't match the information you have.
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=B&w=07mz&rid=B&search_lastname=Sandacz&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=B&w=71wa&rid=B&search_lastname=Sandacz&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=
Unfortunately, there are no earlier years. those that interest you.
Greetings from Poland

Jozef

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Nick Saunders



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Post Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:08 am      Post subject: Saunders/Sanders/Sandacz
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Hi Jozef,
That's very interesting. Harris Saunders my 3rd great grandfather was born in Warsaw.
That explains his surname. There has to be something in the way of a record of him being born?..
I'd really like your help.

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Post Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:28 am      Post subject:
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To help you, I would need to know his real name: full name. I already know that Sandacz surname was but the name is definitely not Harris. You gave the name David in brackets. Maybe that's the name? You gave the year of birth 1841 but you have to assume that it was a different year, maybe 1842 or even 1845.Perhaps I am wrong, but they were probably Jews, so there is a problem with finding information about them.

I will try to help you, but I can't promise you that I will find anything.
Greetings
Józef

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Post Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 am      Post subject: Saunders/Sanders/Sandacz
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Hi Jozef,

Thank you so much for all of your help regarding this. I will aim to provide you with all of the information/research i have so far.
You are correct as i have various dates for Harris birth.
Name: Harris ‘David’ Saunders (1839 – 16 October 1907) (although his gravestone says 'died 1907 aged 66)
Date of birth: 1839 Poland/Russia, Warsaw
Parents: Marcus Nathan Saunders? & Isabella ‘Elizabeth’ Bilah ?

Name: Marcus Nathan [Emanuel/Menahem]Saunders (we think is the father to Harris?)
Date of birth: c1813 Poland
Parents: 1Michael [Michael Hacohen] Saunders

Name: 1Michael [Michael Hacohen] Saunders (probable father to Nathan?)
Date of birth: c1780 – Poland/Russia
Might be easier to email me and i can send you better clearer information if you dont mind?
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[email protected]

Thanks so sos much

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2024 7:25 am      Post subject:
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zefir454 wrote:
To help you, I would need to know his real name: full name. I already know that Sandacz surname was but the name is definitely not Harris. You gave the name David in brackets. Maybe that's the name? You gave the year of birth 1841 but you have to assume that it was a different year, maybe 1842 or even 1845.Perhaps I am wrong, but they were probably Jews, so there is a problem with finding information about them.

I will try to help you, but I can't promise you that I will find anything.
Greetings
Józef

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