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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 2:14 pm
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I am working on it.
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 8:16 am
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
BarbOslo wrote: | jajan wrote: | Hi Marcel,
Could you please translate this marriage (#37) from Suwalki? I am particularly interested in whether Rozalia Jankowska’s parents are noted as still living or not.
Thank-You!
jajan |
Hi,
I tried to find something about Tomasz Jankowski and Róża (Rozalia) nee Kołzan (Kowzan, Kouzan). This attached wedding record does not answer your question.
My findings are based on "Genetyka" and "Szukaj w archiwach". I guess something is familiar to you.
Tomasz and Rozalia had at least 4 children:
Franciszka born 1809 (she was the youngest)
Rozalia born abt. 1807
Jędrzej (Andrzej) born abt. 1805
Pawel born abt. 1801
I have read the wedding records of the 4 children. In two cases, the information is that they live with their parents. It confirms that both lived in 1827 and 1828. In 1828 they were abt. 63 and 58 years old.
I found a wedding record which looks interesting. On February 2nd, 1835 Tomasz Jankowski, widower, 70 years old marries widow Anna Mikielska nee Szczesna. In this record it is stated that he was the son of Bartlomiej and Marianna.
I also found the death record of Tomasz which states that he died on Juny 3rd, 1841, and that he is survived by his wife Anna nee Szczesna.
If this is your Tomasz, which I believe, then Rozalia died between 1828-1835. Unfortunately I was unable to find her death record.
Hope that was some new information.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
The more I think about it, the more I think this could be a possibility for Tomasz Jankowski. Do you have the time to translate the 1835 marriage record you referenced? I have attached it for easy reference. Your assistance is very much appreciated. Thank-You, jajan.
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:25 am
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
jajan wrote: | BarbOslo wrote: | jajan wrote: | Hi Marcel,
Could you please translate this marriage (#37) from Suwalki? I am particularly interested in whether Rozalia Jankowska’s parents are noted as still living or not.
Thank-You!
jajan |
Hi,
I tried to find something about Tomasz Jankowski and Róża (Rozalia) nee Kołzan (Kowzan, Kouzan). This attached wedding record does not answer your question.
My findings are based on "Genetyka" and "Szukaj w archiwach". I guess something is familiar to you.
Tomasz and Rozalia had at least 4 children:
Franciszka born 1809 (she was the youngest)
Rozalia born abt. 1807
Jędrzej (Andrzej) born abt. 1805
Pawel born abt. 1801
I have read the wedding records of the 4 children. In two cases, the information is that they live with their parents. It confirms that both lived in 1827 and 1828. In 1828 they were abt. 63 and 58 years old.
I found a wedding record which looks interesting. On February 2nd, 1835 Tomasz Jankowski, widower, 70 years old marries widow Anna Mikielska nee Szczesna. In this record it is stated that he was the son of Bartlomiej and Marianna.
I also found the death record of Tomasz which states that he died on Juny 3rd, 1841, and that he is survived by his wife Anna nee Szczesna.
If this is your Tomasz, which I believe, then Rozalia died between 1828-1835. Unfortunately I was unable to find her death record.
Hope that was some new information.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
The more I think about it, the more I think this could be a possibility for Tomasz Jankowski. Do you have the time to translate the 1835 marriage record you referenced? I have attached it for easy reference. Your assistance is very much appreciated. Thank-You, jajan. |
I am working on it.
_________________ My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
PAYPAL: [email protected]
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 11:35 am
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
jajan wrote: | BarbOslo wrote: | jajan wrote: | Hi Marcel,
Could you please translate this marriage (#37) from Suwalki? I am particularly interested in whether Rozalia Jankowska’s parents are noted as still living or not.
Thank-You!
jajan |
Hi,
I tried to find something about Tomasz Jankowski and Róża (Rozalia) nee Kołzan (Kowzan, Kouzan). This attached wedding record does not answer your question.
My findings are based on "Genetyka" and "Szukaj w archiwach". I guess something is familiar to you.
Tomasz and Rozalia had at least 4 children:
Franciszka born 1809 (she was the youngest)
Rozalia born abt. 1807
Jędrzej (Andrzej) born abt. 1805
Pawel born abt. 1801
I have read the wedding records of the 4 children. In two cases, the information is that they live with their parents. It confirms that both lived in 1827 and 1828. In 1828 they were abt. 63 and 58 years old.
I found a wedding record which looks interesting. On February 2nd, 1835 Tomasz Jankowski, widower, 70 years old marries widow Anna Mikielska nee Szczesna. In this record it is stated that he was the son of Bartlomiej and Marianna.
I also found the death record of Tomasz which states that he died on Juny 3rd, 1841, and that he is survived by his wife Anna nee Szczesna.
If this is your Tomasz, which I believe, then Rozalia died between 1828-1835. Unfortunately I was unable to find her death record.
Hope that was some new information.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
The more I think about it, the more I think this could be a possibility for Tomasz Jankowski. Do you have the time to translate the 1835 marriage record you referenced? I have attached it for easy reference. Your assistance is very much appreciated. Thank-You, jajan. |
Nr 3
Dzierwany
It happened in the town of Wiżajny, on February 3rd, 1835, at 2 p.m.
We make it known that in the presence of the witnesses, Onufry Szczesny, 53 years old, a farmer living in the village of Okliny and Kazimierz Langowski, a citizen of the town of Wiżajny, living in Wiżajny, 55 years old, a religious marriage was concluded on this day, between:
Tomasz Jankowski, a widower, a daylaborer living in Dzierwany, who was born in Czostków, a son of the late spouses: Bartłomiej Jankowski and Marianna Jankowska, 70 years old
and
Anna Mikielska, a widow after the late Wojciech Mikielski, who died on May 1st of the last year, daughter of the late spouses Kazimierz Szczesny and Marianna Szczesna, born in the village of Blenda, 45 years old, living in Dzierwany.
This marriage was preceded by the three banns of marriage, announced on January 11th, 1th and February 1st of the current year.
There were no objections for this marriage.
The newlyweds declared they did not enter into the prenuptial agreement.
This act was read to the newlyweds and the witnesses and due to their illiteracy it was signed by Us only.
Priest Józef Kochański, the Wiżajny parish-priest.
_________________ My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 12:04 pm
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
Hi Jajan,
Then I see that Marcel has already translated this wedding record. There is a high probability that it is your Tomasz. Both the age and area match, but why can't we find Rozalia's death record?
-Barb
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 3:32 pm
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
marcelproust wrote: | jajan wrote: | BarbOslo wrote: | jajan wrote: | Hi Marcel,
Could you please translate this marriage (#37) from Suwalki? I am particularly interested in whether Rozalia Jankowska’s parents are noted as still living or not.
Thank-You!
jajan |
Hi,
I tried to find something about Tomasz Jankowski and Róża (Rozalia) nee Kołzan (Kowzan, Kouzan). This attached wedding record does not answer your question.
My findings are based on "Genetyka" and "Szukaj w archiwach". I guess something is familiar to you.
Tomasz and Rozalia had at least 4 children:
Franciszka born 1809 (she was the youngest)
Rozalia born abt. 1807
Jędrzej (Andrzej) born abt. 1805
Pawel born abt. 1801
I have read the wedding records of the 4 children. In two cases, the information is that they live with their parents. It confirms that both lived in 1827 and 1828. In 1828 they were abt. 63 and 58 years old.
I found a wedding record which looks interesting. On February 2nd, 1835 Tomasz Jankowski, widower, 70 years old marries widow Anna Mikielska nee Szczesna. In this record it is stated that he was the son of Bartlomiej and Marianna.
I also found the death record of Tomasz which states that he died on Juny 3rd, 1841, and that he is survived by his wife Anna nee Szczesna.
If this is your Tomasz, which I believe, then Rozalia died between 1828-1835. Unfortunately I was unable to find her death record.
Hope that was some new information.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
The more I think about it, the more I think this could be a possibility for Tomasz Jankowski. Do you have the time to translate the 1835 marriage record you referenced? I have attached it for easy reference. Your assistance is very much appreciated. Thank-You, jajan. |
Nr 3
Dzierwany
It happened in the town of Wiżajny, on February 3rd, 1835, at 2 p.m.
We make it known that in the presence of the witnesses, Onufry Szczesny, 53 years old, a farmer living in the village of Okliny and Kazimierz Langowski, a citizen of the town of Wiżajny, living in Wiżajny, 55 years old, a religious marriage was concluded on this day, between:
Tomasz Jankowski, a widower, a daylaborer living in Dzierwany, who was born in Czostków, a son of the late spouses: Bartłomiej Jankowski and Marianna Jankowska, 70 years old
and
Anna Mikielska, a widow after the late Wojciech Mikielski, who died on May 1st of the last year, daughter of the late spouses Kazimierz Szczesny and Marianna Szczesna, born in the village of Blenda, 45 years old, living in Dzierwany.
This marriage was preceded by the three banns of marriage, announced on January 11th, 1th and February 1st of the current year.
There were no objections for this marriage.
The newlyweds declared they did not enter into the prenuptial agreement.
This act was read to the newlyweds and the witnesses and due to their illiteracy it was signed by Us only.
Priest Józef Kochański, the Wiżajny parish-priest. |
Thank-You, Marcel! Could you please also translate Tomasz Jankowski’s death record (attached).
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2024 5:47 pm
Post subject: Re: 1843 37 Wacław Żukowski & Rozalia Wilczewska (Janko
Hi,
The translation follows.
No.28 Dzierwany
It happened in the town of Wiżajny, on June 4th, 1841, at 2 p.m.
Appeared Paweł Murawski, 27 years old and Mateusz Mikielski, 32 years old, both daylaborers, living in the village of Dzierwany and they declared that yesterday, at 1 p.m., died in this village Tomasz Jankowski, 80 years old, a daylaborer, he was survived by his wife Anna nee Szczęsna.
After convinced myself about the death of Tomasz Jankowski this act was read to the declarants, who were illiterate and it was signed by Us.
Priest Kochański, the Wiżajny parish-priest.
Regards,
-Barb
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TedMack
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:42 am
Post subject: Polish Record Translation
G'day
Can I get a translation of the attached record please. It is a terrible copy, and I have tried to clean it up to make it legible. It is from the village of Czolowo, par. Osiek Wielki, Koło, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
Cheers
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2024 2:47 am
Post subject: Re: Polish Record Translation
TedMack wrote: | G'day
Can I get a translation of the attached record please. It is a terrible copy, and I have tried to clean it up to make it legible. It is from the village of Czolowo, par. Osiek Wielki, Koło, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
Cheers |
I am working on it.
_________________ My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:47 am
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I will do it on Monday.
_________________ My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
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TedMack
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:07 am
Post subject: Re: Polish Record Translation
marcelproust wrote: | TedMack wrote: | G'day
Can I get a translation of the attached record please. It is a terrible copy, and I have tried to clean it up to make it legible. It is from the village of Czolowo, par. Osiek Wielki, Koło, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
Cheers |
I am working on it. |
G'day Marcel - Have you had a chance to look at this one?
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:33 am
Post subject: Re: Polish Record Translation
TedMack wrote: | G'day
Can I get a translation of the attached record please. It is a terrible copy, and I have tried to clean it up to make it legible. It is from the village of Czolowo, par. Osiek Wielki, Koło, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
Cheers |
Nr 70
Czołowo
In the year of 1820, on the 1st day of November, at 12 o'clock at noon, in front of Us, the parish-priest of Osiek, serving as Civil Registrar for the commune of Osiek, located in the district of Konin in the voivodeship of Kalisz, appeared Szymon Gorzyński, a farmer from the village of Czołowo, 30 years old and presented Us a newborn female child, who was born in his house numer 13 on October 29th, at 2 p.m., informing that the child was born of him and Teresa nee Cieślik, 21 years old and he declared that his wish was to name the child Katarzyna.
After the above statement and presentation of the child were made this birth record was read and signed to the illiterate parties in front of the witnesses: Mateusz Waszczyński, a farmer from Czołowo, 24 years old and Urban Grzebieluch, the village head of Czołowo, 56 years old.
This act was signed by Us only, the Civil Registrar, priest Jan Porzycki, the Ociek parish-priest.
_________________ My translations are voluntary, but they take a lot of time and effort, so whenever you want to send money it will be a very nice "Thank you" gift to me.
THANK YOU
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TedMack
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 6:46 am
Post subject: Re: Polish Record Translation
marcelproust wrote: | TedMack wrote: | G'day
Can I get a translation of the attached record please. It is a terrible copy, and I have tried to clean it up to make it legible. It is from the village of Czolowo, par. Osiek Wielki, Koło, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
Cheers |
Nr 70
Czołowo
In the year of 1820, on the 1st day of November, at 12 o'clock at noon, in front of Us, the parish-priest of Osiek, serving as Civil Registrar for the commune of Osiek, located in the district of Konin in the voivodeship of Kalisz, appeared Szymon Gorzyński, a farmer from the village of Czołowo, 30 years old and presented Us a newborn female child, who was born in his house numer 13 on October 29th, at 2 p.m., informing that the child was born of him and Teresa nee Cieślik, 21 years old and he declared that his wish was to name the child Katarzyna.
After the above statement and presentation of the child were made this birth record was read and signed to the illiterate parties in front of the witnesses: Mateusz Waszczyński, a farmer from Czołowo, 24 years old and Urban Grzebieluch, the village head of Czołowo, 56 years old.
This act was signed by Us only, the Civil Registrar, priest Jan Porzycki, the Ociek parish-priest. |
Thank you.
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