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yapper



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Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:07 pm      Post subject: Catholic church in Weigelsdorf/Wigancice
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Searching for catholic church for the following:

1803 marriage
Christoph ANDERMANN + Theresa Muckin

1803 baptism
Antonius Josephus Franciscus ANDERMANN

German = Weigelsdorf / Reichenbach / Breslau / Schlesien
Polish = Wigancice / Wroclaw / Silesia

1832 burial
Franz MUCKE
Same location - perhaps buried in cemetery behind church?
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:47 pm      Post subject:
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Hello,

Family search has the parish records. Here is the link for the 1803 index for baptism you seek:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-FN11

The records are locked and can only be viewed from a Family Research center or participating library near you.

I will look for the others and post if I find it.

Cynthia
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:50 pm      Post subject:
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Hello again,

Here is the link for the indexed record of the 1832 burial of Franz Mucke:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-B8M8

I will look for the marriage record…

Cynthia
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 6:54 pm      Post subject:
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Hello again,

Here is the link for the indexed record of the 1803 marriage:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-KHXS

I will post the link where you can submit a search request for these records in case you can’t get to a research center.

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Cynthia
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:00 pm      Post subject:
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Here is the link with instruct how to request a record lookup. You must provide the film number and page/image number. It often works best to just provide the links I gave you for each record and that way they can see all the relevant information needed to do the lookup.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/family-history-library/record-lookup-service

Good luck,
Cynthia
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:18 pm      Post subject:
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mcdonald0517 wrote:
Hello,

Family search has the parish records. Here is the link for the 1803 index for baptism you seek:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-FN11

The records are locked and can only be viewed from a Family Research center or participating library near you.

I will look for the others and post if I find it.

Cynthia


Hi Cynthia and Yapper

Here is the baptismal record. I was able to download it from familysearch for you.

Hope this helps,
Trish

Edit added on August 19, 2002 -- 1803 Birth Record - Record #4 - Page: 579 - Microfilm #1899224 (DGS #7769312) - Image #242



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Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:20 pm      Post subject:
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mcdonald0517 wrote:
Hello again,

Here is the link for the indexed record of the 1832 burial of Franz Mucke:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-B8M8

I will look for the marriage record…

Cynthia


Hi Cynthia and Yapper,

Here is the death record for Franz.
Trish

Edit added on August 19, 2002 -- 1832 Death Record - Record #68 - Microfilm #1899224 (DGS #7769312) - Image #689



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Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 12:23 pm      Post subject:
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mcdonald0517 wrote:
Hello again,

Here is the link for the indexed record of the 1803 marriage:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-KHXS

I will post the link where you can submit a search request for these records in case you can’t get to a research center.

Best,
CyHnthia


Hi Everyone,

Here is the marriage record.
Trish

Edit added on August 19, 2002 -- 1803 Marriage Record - Record #11 - Microfilm #1899224 (DGS #7769312) - Image #771



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yapper



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Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 1:24 pm      Post subject: Catholic church records
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This is wonderful Laughing

I'll look them over to see if I can determine actual name of church - if so, will someone be able to tell me if church still exists there & were it is located? Also, hoping to be able to decipher godparents on baptism as well as witness on marriage? With any luck this could lead to other relatives - fingers crossed.

Thanks so much!!
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Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 8:11 am      Post subject: Record translation
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Oops, got so excited about finding these records that I just realized that I need help translating from Latin/German?
Can someone please translate or direct me on how best to approach this request?

Note: Especially interested in baptismal record - church/parish/diocese - but any/all would be great

Family search link for the index associated with baptism:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-FN11

1803 Antonius Josephus Franciscus Andermann
Weigelsdorf / Reichenbach / Breslau / Schlesien / Preußen / Deutschland

Thanks in advance for your time & efforts Very Happy
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 8:32 am      Post subject: Re: Record translation
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yapper wrote:
Oops, got so excited about finding these records that I just realized that I need help translating from Latin/German?
Can someone please translate or direct me on how best to approach this request?

Note: Especially interested in baptismal record - church/parish/diocese - but any/all would be great

Family search link for the index associated with baptism:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6ZXS-FN11

1803 Antonius Josephus Franciscus Andermann
Weigelsdorf / Reichenbach / Breslau / Schlesien / Preußen / Deutschland

Thanks in advance for your time & efforts Very Happy


Hi Yapper,
Good to see so much progress, thanks to Cynthia and Trish!
Your records are in German. There is a running thread here on the forum, where you can ask for help with German translations. Here:
https://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?p=61375#61375
Sophia
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 9:50 am      Post subject: Translation
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Yes, these ladies have been awesome Exclamation
thanks for the guidance - will post on other thread - quick question - if record is in German rather than Latin could that mean that it is perhaps Lutheran rather than Catholic? Question
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 10:14 am      Post subject: Re: Translation
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yapper wrote:
Yes, these ladies have been awesome Exclamation
thanks for the guidance - will post on other thread - quick question - if record is in German rather than Latin could that mean that it is perhaps Lutheran rather than Catholic? Question


Hi,
The fact that the records are in German does not tell you what denomination they are. The links that Cynthia provided are to an index of both Catholic and Lutheran records. Hopefully Trish, who was able to obtain actual images, can tell you which it was (by paging backwards to the beginning of the church book). That should enable you to find the answer to your other question of whether that church still exists.
Sophia
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:51 pm      Post subject:
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I think the church might have been in Berzdorf (in which case, Catholic). Here is the entry for Berzdorf in Meyer's Gazetteer:
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10157024
If you follow that link, and click on the "map" tab, you will see not only Berzdorf, but also your Weigelsdorf as well as some of the other towns named in the church book image of the marriage record (Ober Kunzendorf, and Tschammerhof).
If the church was in Münsterberg, also close by, then it could have been either Catholic or Lutheran.
Sophia
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2022 11:18 am      Post subject: Many many thanks
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Sophia you are spectacular! This is the information that I have been trying to track down for 20 years

Antoine Andermann built St Mary's catholic chapel in south Louisiana and his son Ernest helped to build St Michaels catholic church further down the river road a generation later - so relieved to finally connect the dots Wink Exclamation
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