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yapper

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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:11 am Post subject: East Prussia marriage record

I have a marriage record from Family Search in 1725 that only lists location as OstpreuBen, PreuBen

1725 Johann George Andermann spouse Susanna Justin

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6FYD-8S26

Is there a way to determine village/town/church as well as whether or not this is still part of Poland or Russia today?

Note: unable to attach image of actual church document Sad

thanks for your efforts,
Laurie

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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:29 am Post subject: Re: East Prussia marriage record

yapper wrote:

thanks for your efforts,
Laurie

Hi Laurie,
Are you asking what village/town/church this microfilm represents? When you click to look at the image of the church book, it shows the FHL film number as 007672131, and if you search the Family History Catalog for that film number, it says it is for the church records of Katholische Kirche Bischdorf (Kr. Neumarkt).
Hope this is what you are asking.
Sophia

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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:14 pm Post subject: East Prussian marriage location

thanks Sophia
Trying to figure out town (possibly renamed from German to Polish) & where it might be located in Poland now??

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 2:31 am Post subject: Re: East Prussian marriage location

yapper wrote:

thanks Sophia
Trying to figure out town (possibly renamed from German to Polish) & where it might be located in Poland now??

Hi Sophia & Laurie,
I found this:
Sątopy-Samulewo (germ. Bischdorf) is a village in Warmia-Masuria.

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-Barb

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 3:36 am Post subject:

Great to know such!! - thanks Barb for giving me another piece of family history puzzle Exclamation

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:16 am Post subject: Re: East Prussian marriage location

yapper wrote:

thanks Sophia
Trying to figure out town (possibly renamed from German to Polish) & where it might be located in Poland now??

Hi Laurie and Barb,
According to Meyer's Gazetteer, there are a lot of places called Bischdorf. The 6th one on this list appears to be yours, because it is in Neumarkt:
https://s.meyersgaz.org/search?search=Bischdorf
The problem is that this Neumarkt is in Schlesien, Prussia and the film notes from Family Search said the Neumarkt was in Ostpreussen (East Prussia). Is it an error on the part of Family Search?
Meyer's is listing two Bischdorfs in Ostpreussen.
Laurie, if you click on "Bischdorf 6)" then it takes you to a new page, where you are automatically on a tab called "Entry." Make sure to check out the other tabs, "Map" and "Ecclesiastical."
Best regards,
Sophia

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:22 am Post subject:

Hi again,
This image from the first page of that Family Search microfilm would seem to suggest that it is the Bischdorf in Neumarkt in Schlesien:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9RT-237C-5?i=2&cc=4110912
Notice the reference to Breslau, which is today's Wrocław in Poland. It appears that your Bischdorf is today's Święte, Poland.
Sophia

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:09 am Post subject:

Sophia wrote:

Hi Sophia,
Absolutely correct what you write. There is a place with the same name in Silesia. The heading in the first post was "East Prussia marriage record", so I was mainly looking for a place in East Prussia. I did not check the microfilm.

-Barb

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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:57 pm Post subject:

BarbOslo wrote:

Sophia wrote:

Hi Barb,
This one is just an error on the part of the person who indexed the record for Family Search. The word "Ostpreussen" shows up in the link that Laurie gave:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6FYD-8S26
So naturally it made sense when Laurie posted the question, to ask about places in East Prussia. This is not the first error on Family Search. There are a lot of ship manifests of Poles from Galicia where the indexer has put "Galicia, Spain" which might really confuse someone. Having said that, this work is done by volunteers so we have to take that into account.
It was helpful to go to the original document, page back to the beginning of that church book, and see where it was from.
Best,
Sophia

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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:56 am Post subject:

Glad that you checked it out. Then I hope Laurie reads your message and gets the new location.
-Barb

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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:36 am Post subject: Bischdorf correction

You gals rock Exclamation

Breslau makes more sense due to the fact that I started with later generation with baptism/marriage in 1800s Weigelsdorf/Breslau/Schlesien (see other posts by me previously) then was trying to go back earlier generations when I found 1700 records - Thanks soooo much
Laurie

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