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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:57 am
Post subject: Zagroda - Leman to USA
In October I experienced a private PolishOrigins genealogy tour of a lifetime and met living relatives. Of the many documents obtained, one continues to be a mystery - The list of Leman parish members in 1937 in the Barbara Koszewska Zadroga family. If Rozalia was born in the U.S., her father must have immigrated as well prior to 1913.
Barbara Koszewska Zadroga - Leman 1881, daughter of Ignacy Koszewski
Szczepan Zadroga, spouse Leman - Leman 1884-1961
Bronislaw Zadroga, son, Leman 1911
Rozalia Ruszczyk, spouse of Bronislaw, born in U.S. 1913
Ruszczyk, her father (no records)
Rozalia's children born in U.s. Halina,1935, Franciszek, 1938, Antos, 1940, Stanislaw, 1945
_________________ Stephen Koszewski
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:07 am
Post subject: Re: Zagroda - Leman to USA
skozewski wrote: | In October I experienced a private PolishOrigins genealogy tour of a lifetime and met living relatives. Of the many documents obtained, one continues to be a mystery - The list of Leman parish members in 1937 in the Barbara Koszewska Zadroga family. If Rozalia was born in the U.S., her father must have immigrated as well prior to 1913.
Barbara Koszewska Zadroga - Leman 1881, daughter of Ignacy Koszewski
Szczepan Zadroga, spouse Leman - Leman 1884-1961
Bronislaw Zadroga, son, Leman 1911
Rozalia Ruszczyk, spouse of Bronislaw, born in U.S. 1913
Ruszczyk, her father (no records)
Rozalia's children born in U.s. Halina,1935, Franciszek, 1938, Antos, 1940, Stanislaw, 1945 |
Hi Stephen,
If I understand correctly, you are looking for a ship manifest or census document to show that Rozalia's father entered the U.S. and lived there before returning to Poland. Do I have that right? Of course, it is possible that he was U.S.-born, as well.
From the list of names you provided from the 1937 list of members of the Leman parish, it appears that Rozalia's maiden name was Ruszczyk and her married name was Zadroga. You do not seem to know Rozalia's father's first name. Do you have any documents you can attach here, that would help? Perhaps a birth certificate from the U.S., for Rozalia Ruszczyk? It would be interesting to see an image of the 1937 Leman parish record that you have.
Best regards,
Sophia
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skozewski
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 11:24 am
Post subject: Zagroda - Leman to USA
Sophia
Thank you for your assistance. I don't have anything else on Ruszczyk.
It does mention that Rozalia and her children - Halina, Franciszek, Antoś (Antoni), and Stanisław - were all born in America.
The maiden name Ruszczyk was of Rozalia, Bronisław's wife, not of Halina as her maiden name was Zadroga.
Bronisław Zadroga was Barbara Zadroga's (born Koszewska) son. She was born in 1881 in Leman.
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:00 pm
Post subject: Re: Zagroda - Leman to USA
skozewski wrote: | Sophia
Thank you for your assistance. I don't have anything else on Ruszczyk.
It does mention that Rozalia and her children - Halina, Franciszek, Antoś (Antoni), and Stanisław - were all born in America.
The maiden name Ruszczyk was of Rozalia, Bronisław's wife, not of Halina as her maiden name was Zadroga.
Bronisław Zadroga was Barbara Zadroga's (born Koszewska) son. She was born in 1881 in Leman. |
Hi Stephen,
This is very helpful, thank you for uploading the image. What I see is a document that was added to, over time. The notes in red, and the notes in pencil, were not written at the same time as the original entries. I am not certain that I would interpret what is written there in the same way that you have. Let me offer you my interpretation so that you can consider it.
I believe the notation "Ameryka" in the column for place of birth refers only to Rozalia, and not to her children. That would mean that the first time the page was written on, "Leman" was given as the place of birth for Bronislaw and then "ditto" marks were entered the rest of the way down that column. Then (in my opinion) someone corrected it by adding "Ameryka" for Rozalia. Ideally, they should have then re-written "Leman" on the line for Halina and allowed the subsequent ditto marks to stand. Looking at what is there, I think this entry was from 1938, rather than 1937. And then, in later years, the two youngest children were pencilled in.
Here is my thinking. If we follow the idea that the children were all born in America, this would be the timeline:
Rozalia was born in 1913 in America. Whether or not she returned to Poland, she was at the very least back in America in 1935 for Halina's birth. Then by 1937 she was in Leman for this document to be written. Then back to America for Franciszek's birth in 1938. It does not seem quite right. Also, there is the right-most column which gives document reference numbers for most of the people on the page. On Halina's line, it cites a birth record (the "ur" stands for "urodzin") and I read the date as 1935, 7th of December, Akt #83 which I believe refers to a Polish record rather than an American one.
Regarding Rozalia's time in America, do you have any idea where she would have lived? That would make it much easier to search for records for her and try to unlock the puzzle of her father.
Best regards,
Sophia
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:50 pm
Post subject: Re: Zagroda - Leman to USA
skozewski wrote: | In October I experienced a private PolishOrigins genealogy tour of a lifetime and met living relatives. Of the many documents obtained, one continues to be a mystery - The list of Leman parish members in 1937 in the Barbara Koszewska Zadroga family. If Rozalia was born in the U.S., her father must have immigrated as well prior to 1913.
Barbara Koszewska Zadroga - Leman 1881, daughter of Ignacy Koszewski
Szczepan Zadroga, spouse Leman - Leman 1884-1961
Bronislaw Zadroga, son, Leman 1911
Rozalia Ruszczyk, spouse of Bronislaw, born in U.S. 1913
Ruszczyk, her father (no records)
Rozalia's children born in U.s. Halina,1935, Franciszek, 1938, Antos, 1940, Stanislaw, 1945 |
Hi Stephen and Sophia,
I'm trying to follow along here, but I'm a bit confused. Sophia gave a detailed explanation of the document you posted. Sophia also asked if you know what city & State Rozalia was born? It will help lus ook for clues if we had more information.
I hope I am not duplicating your work, but I found the following information.
I am not sure if this is your Bronislaw. Here is the information for him.
Bronislaw Zadroga's parents are Jozef Zadroga and Barbara Koszewska. Here is a link for Bronislaw Zadroga's 1911 birth record. Bronislaw's birth record is #22. Note that Bronislaw is a twin. Someone on the forum will need to translate it for you.
https://metryki.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=pg&ar=15&zs=0760d&se=&sy=2500&kt=6&plik=021-022.jpg&x=292&y=1831&zoom=2
Here is a list of some of the children of Jozef Zadroga and Barbara Koszewska.
https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=10pl&rid=B&search_lastname=Zadroga&search_name=Jozef&search_lastname2=&search_name2=Barbara&from_date=&to_date=
Jozef Zadroga andBarbara Koszewska were married in 1902 - Record #9 - scan #114. Someone on the forum will have to translate the record for you.
https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/jednostka/-/jednostka/17536613?_Jednostka_delta=20&_Jednostka_resetCur=false&_Jednostka_cur=6&_Jednostka_id_jednostki=17536613
Rozalia Ruszczyk Zadroga Death Information
Name Rozalia Zadroga
Birth Date 1913
Death Date 8 Jul 1987
Cemetery Cmentarz Komunalny w Leman
Burial or Cremation Place Leman, Powiat kolneński, Podlaskie, Poland
Has Bio? N
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191006148/rozalia-zadroga
Regards,
Trish
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2023 4:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Zagroda - Leman to USA
Hello everyone,
It appears that Bronislaw Zadroga and Rozalia Zadroga nee Ruszczyk returned to Poland. Trish found Rozalia's grave. It seems that Bronislaw is buried next to her. See the link.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/191016689/bronislaw-zadroga
Bronislaw's age is calculated from the year of death. He died aged 70. He was born on 22 May 1911.
- Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:50 am
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Hi Trish and Barb,
Great info that you gathered. It is likely that Stephen is familiar with much of it, since he said he went to Poland and toured with Polish Origins. The note about Bronislaw having a twin is very interesting. I think that the "Ameryka" notation on the family record sheet from the church in Leman is where Stephen needs the most help.
Stephen, here is one record, but it is a long shot:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NQD-582T
This is a birth record for "Rose Ruszczyk" in New Jersey. It is only the index, and it is for the year 1923, so it is ten years late. I wonder, though, if it could have been a late birth registration, when a document was needed for travel (back to Poland). You would have to follow through and get a copy of the actual birth certificate in order to see that.
Best regards,
Sophia
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 11:16 am
Post subject: Zagroda - Leman to USA
Sophia, Trish, Barb
...appreciate the findings...so it's Josef Zagroda. A lot to study. Locating Rozalia and Bronislaw's 4 children will determine if the family immigrated and then returned, which I haven't seen. I believe we visited the cemetery and only found Barbara Zagroda nee Koszewska's headstone. I would like to go back and ask the priest to see if he can explain his records.
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