Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2024 6:43 pm
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Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:00 pm
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| Henry Soszynski wrote: |
| Greetings and Best Wishes to all,
I'm interested in a translation of the attached record. Just the vitals would be fine and only if the couple are Stanislaw Kozak and Marianna Mroczkowska. Many thanks, Henry |
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:23 pm
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| BarbOslo wrote: | ||
Happy new year, Henry! Is that couple your ancestors? 21. Kamień It happened in Piotrawin, on October 30th / November 11th, 1877, at 10 a.m. We make it known that in the presence of the witnesses, Marian Biernacki, 66 years old and Jan Górski, 60 years old, peasants from Kamień, a religious marriage was concluded on this day, between: Stanisław Kozak, 23 years old, a son of Józef and Helena nee Spiwak, the spouses, who was born and living in Kolonia Solecka, a bachelor. and Marianna Mroczkowska, 17 years old, a daughter of Jan and Katarzyna nee Cywińska, who was born and living in Kamień with his parents, a miss. Best regards, -Barb |
Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 4:31 am
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 7:16 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: |
| Hi,
What is the name of your Stanislaw Kozak's wife and what do you know about her? -Barb |
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2024 6:51 pm
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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 6:31 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: |
| Hi again,
I have studied church books from Solec. Many possibilities. I have written some notes. These are safe points. Marianna Kozak (born 1907) was your grandmother. She married Szczepan Lasota. Marianna's parents were Stanislaw Kozak and Jozefa Dynarek. What do you know about Stanislaw and Jozefa? I found several named Stanislaw Kozak and Jozefa Dynarek. "Stanislaw Kozak 1860-1921, born in Sadkowice in Pawlowice and Józefa Dynarek ca1862-1934, born in Sadkowice in Solec. My mother remembers her funeral. SK, married Franciszka Dynarek in 1879, don't know when he married Józefa." If Jozefa Kozak who died in 1934 was your great-grandmother, then she was born approx. 1860 (age estimated at the birth of the children). Stanislaw's year of birth will be approx. 1859. They married sometime after 1876. Jozefa's death record says she was a widow, but not by whom. The Stanislaw death record from 1921 states that he is survived by his wife, Jozefa nee Dynarek. Parents of the deceased are noted in both death records: Kozak Jan (1835-1904) and Franciszka nee Malec (1839-) Dynarek Tomasz (born 1815 - died in 1863, he was born on 16.12.1821 and died 3.6.1863) and Agnieszka Lichota (born 1826 - died on 23.7.1896). The death reported by Stanislaw Kozak. Agnieszka was likely born in 1824/1825, but the records apparently are all damaged. They married in 1843 in Pawlowice. Only one Jozefa Dynarek has these parents. She was born on February 11, 1856. But it is true that, according to Genetyka, she died as a 3-year-old in 1859. I found 8-9 children of Tomasz and Agnieszka: They all lived in Sadkowice in Solec. 1845 Jozef (he died before 1851) 3.8.1845-15.12.1848 1849 Tomasz (he died in 1866) 19.12.1849-28.6.1866 1851 Jozef (he died in 1921) 25.10.1851-22.3.1921 1853 Stanislaw 6.5.1853-1884 1855 Wiktoria - died before 1863 19.2.1855-14.4.1855 1856 Jozefa (she died in 1859) ? 11.2.1856-17.2.1859 1860 Katarzyna married to Sak in 1893 11.4.1860-lost? There appears to be no acceptable marriage listed anywhere for Katarzyna, but see further. 1862 Franciszek - (father 40 years, mother 26 years)? not listed at Tomasz's death and did not die before 1863 ? she was born on 12.10.1862, and married Stanislaw Kozak in 1879. ab.1862 Franciszka married to Kozak in 1879 (see line above). NOTE. Franciszek (Male) is the gender as given in the records available on Genbaza, while Franciszka is female and is noted as such on the FamilySearch website, Image 126 of 659. Franciszka 8.11.1864-22.1.1944 in Boiska, she married on 30th January 1893 in Solec to Marcin Sak 1872-1919 and had at least six children. I have no comment as I'm completely at a loss trying to describe this one. Stanislaw Kozak married Franciszka Dynarek in 1879. She was then 17 years old. This means that she was born around 1862. But in 1862 the couple had a son Franciszek. Incorrect see above. Is the priest's name written incorrectly? Unfortunately I don't read Russian. I don't think that Jozefa and Franciszka are the same person. This is because in the death record of Tomasz (1863) I could read that he was survived by his wife Agnieszka and children Tomasz, Jozef, Stanislaw, Marianna, Katarzyna i Jozefa. So it seems that Jozefa was still alive in 1863. Unlikely as it would refer to the one born in 1862 and likely equated to Franciszka. But who is Marianna? That's what I managed today. Commendable effort, though I feel we are no closer to a consensus. -Barb |
Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2024 10:43 am
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