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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:21 am
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Tom Matlosz wrote: | Tom Matlosz wrote: | BarbOslo wrote: | Really good search, Trish and Sophia!
It is important that Tom confirms to us the children's names and date of death.
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Josef Gurski d. 4 Jan 1934
Marjanna (Smolewska) Gurski d. 20 Jan 1981
Their children: Josephine N, Francis E, Walter J, Janina (Janice) T, Casimir J and Edward P
If it's helpful, Marjanna had a brother, Justyn Smolewski (b. 16 Dec 1891 - d. 5 Jan 1930). He immigrated to America in March 1909 and served in the US Army during WWI. On his WWI draft card, he listed his place of birth as "Oszmana Poland Russia". |
Could Oszmana be present day Ashmyany, Belarus? It's only 20 miles or so from Gieranony, where the parish was located. |
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Correct. Oszmiana is today called Ashmyany, and is located in Belarus. 40 km is a long distance. In addition, Oszmiana belongs to the R-C parish in Daukszyszki.
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 5:28 am
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To use the site, you need to buy a membership. Some of the information can be seen elsewhere, but much is useful.
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TrishPO Top Contributor
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Hi Everyone,
Tom, about the manifests, I did list that they were a "possible" manifest. I had liked the manifests for they were going to Newark, New Jersey which is right across from Bayonne, New Jersey. Sorry they weren't your family.
Thank you for sharing the family information and records. It is a big help with trying to locate information.
Sorry if you I am duplicating your work, I wanted to post the manifest for Justyn Smolewski. It has some clues on it. Justyn was listed as Ustin Imolewski. He left his father Anton in Gieranony, and going to see his brother in Bayonne. He is on line #9.
Question: Does the brother's name look like Jan Smolewski? I need another opinion especially since the transcriber on ancestry.com transcribed Smolewski wrong.
Name Ustin Imolewski
Gender Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality Polish
Marital Status Single
Age 18
Birth Date abt 1891
Birth Place Russia
Other Birth Place Geranowy
Last Known Residence Geranony, Russia
Departure Port Hamburg
Arrival Date 9 Apr 1909
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Russia
Final Destination Bayonne, New York
Height 5 Feet, 7 Inches
Hair Color Fair
Eye Color Blue
Complexion Fair
Money in Possession 19
Person in Old Country Anton Imolewski
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in Old Country Residence Geranony
Person in US Jen Gurolawski (Jan Smolewski)
Person in US Relationship Brother
Father Anton Imolewski
Sibling Jen Gurolawski
Ship Name Rhaetia
There are also several trees on ancestry.com that list that list the children of Anton Smolewski as: Justryn, Marianna (Mary), Forn(?), Ana, Zygmunt, and Stanislawa. I'm not sure if this is correct or not. Like I said it from someone's tree on ancestry.com.
Question for Tom: Do you have the obituaries for Jozef Gurski and Marianna Smolewski? If not, I can post them for you.
I did find this document online for Marianna Smolewski Gurski. I am not sure if you have it.
Still looking for Jozef and Manianna's manifest.
Regards,
Trish
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Tom Matlosz
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:38 pm
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Trish wrote: | Hi Everyone,
Tom, about the manifests, I did list that they were a "possible" manifest. I had liked the manifests for they were going to Newark, New Jersey which is right across from Bayonne, New Jersey. Sorry they weren't your family.
Thank you for sharing the family information and records. It is a big help with trying to locate information.
Sorry if you I am duplicating your work, I wanted to post the manifest for Justyn Smolewski. It has some clues on it. Justyn was listed as Ustin Imolewski. He left his father Anton in Gieranony, and going to see his brother in Bayonne. He is on line #9.
Question: Does the brother's name look like Jan Smolewski? I need another opinion especially since the transcriber on ancestry.com transcribed Smolewski wrong.
Name Ustin Imolewski
Gender Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality Polish
Marital Status Single
Age 18
Birth Date abt 1891
Birth Place Russia
Other Birth Place Geranowy
Last Known Residence Geranony, Russia
Departure Port Hamburg
Arrival Date 9 Apr 1909
Arrival Port New York, New York, USA
Residence Place Russia
Final Destination Bayonne, New York
Height 5 Feet, 7 Inches
Hair Color Fair
Eye Color Blue
Complexion Fair
Money in Possession 19
Person in Old Country Anton Imolewski
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in Old Country Residence Geranony
Person in US Jen Gurolawski (Jan Smolewski)
Person in US Relationship Brother
Father Anton Imolewski
Sibling Jen Gurolawski
Ship Name Rhaetia
There are also several trees on ancestry.com that list that list the children of Anton Smolewski as: Justryn, Marianna (Mary), Forn(?), Ana, Zygmunt, and Stanislawa. I'm not sure if this is correct or not. Like I said it from someone's tree on ancestry.com.
Question for Tom: Do you have the obituaries for Jozef Gurski and Marianna Smolewski? If not, I can post them for you.
I did find this document online for Marianna Smolewski Gurski. I am not sure if you have it.
Still looking for Jozef and Manianna's manifest.
Regards,Options
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Trish,
We didn't know about other Smolewski siblings. We only knew of Marjanna (Mary) and Justyn (Justin, aka Ustyn). I have Mary's Naturalization record which you posted. I do not have Marjanna's or Justyn's obits. If you could post them that would be great.
By the way, Marjanna was my wife's maternal grandmother.
Thanks,
Tom Matlosz
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:40 pm
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Trish wrote: | Hi Everyone,
I wanted to post the manifest for Justyn Smolewski. It has some clues on it. Justyn was listed as Ustin Imolewski. He left his father Anton in Gieranony, and going to see his brother in Bayonne. He is on line #9.
Question: Does the brother's name look like Jan Smolewski? I need another opinion especially since the transcriber on ancestry.com transcribed Smolewski wrong.
Regards,
Trish |
Hi Trish,
Well done finding Justyn Smolewski's manifest!
I agree, the brother's name is JAN SMOLEWSKI. Please note that Jan must have moved, because the manifest shows Justus's intention of going to Jan in Bayonne but that was changed to Jersey City. You see it in two places. On the first page of the manifest you see he had ditto marks in the destination column, meaning he was going to Bayonne just like the person on the line above him, but "JC" is overwritten there. Also on the second page where the full address in Bayonne is crossed out and it looks like 170 1st Street JC (Jersey City) is written in.
Best regards,
Sophia
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:31 pm
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Hi Tom, Sophia, and Barbara,
Tom: The information I found on the tree on ancestry.com had only the list of names. There was no dates nor information. There was only the names listed as children for Antoni Smolewski. However, least we know per the records found that Marianna had 2 borothers - Jan and Justyn.
Sophia, thank you for looking at the ship's manifest for Justin and veryifing the information for me.
I am attaching the obituaries for Justin, Joseph, and Mary. Note that Justin's obituary only lists Mary Gurski as a sibling.
Justin Smolewski
died: 5 January 1930
buried: 10 January 1930
Holy Cross Cemetery, North Arlington, NJ
Section:9, Section: B, Grave 162, Depth: 1A
Joseph Gurski
died: 1 January 1934
buried: 8 January 1934
Holy Cross Cemetery, North Arlington, NJ
Section: 9, Section: B, Grave 164, Depth: 2A
Mary Gurski (Gurska)
died: 22 January 1981
buried: 24 January 1981
Holy Cross Cemetery, North Arlington, NJ
Section: 9, Section: B, Grave 164, Depth: 2B
Regards,
Trish
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Here's putting faces to the names, for everyone who helped.
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:56 pm
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Tom Matlosz wrote: | Here's putting faces to the names, for everyone who helped. |
Hi Tom,
I sent an email to the parish of Gieranony on March 6. No answer so far.
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Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:38 am
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Hi Tom,
Thank you for sharing the picture. I love old pictures especially wedding pictures. Plus, it is always nice to put a face to a name.
Please keep us posted if you get any records from the New Jersey State Archives. The death record for Jozef could list his parents names. Plus the marriage record also could list his parents names along with some clues as to where Jozef is from.
Did you try to get the baptismal records for the children from the Church they attended? Or the Church marriage record? Those records could also have clues on them. Make sure it ask for any notations on the records such as: town of origin, parents' names, etc.
I'm still having no luck with finding a manifest for Jozef or Marianna.
Have a wonderful day!
Regards,
Trish
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