Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 1:28 pm
Post subject: Mylyk or Milik Galicia - Pavlik / Pawlik / Pawluk
Hello to all.
I have finally found my Great Grandfathers Naturalization Papers to the US, which he declares he is from Milik, Galacia, Czech now Poland. I have searched for the past several months through every paid genealogy website etc.. but I can not find any relatives, nor can I find any family names in any of the Polish or Jewish Forums / Databases. My next step is finding and or hiring someone that is able to search the early church records for Milik / Mylyk
His Name was John Pavlik, I have also seen his first name spelled Jan and Jon, and I have seen his last name also spelled Pawluk. John was born on 13 January 1886 in Milik and supposedly had a twin brother. John moved to Donora, PA and his unknown twin moved to Manville, NJ. John was married to a Julia Bondira. The Naturalization paperwork also states John immigrated to the USA on the Shop "Trave" departing Bremen and arrinving New Your on 5 May 1906 - I have searched and can not find that arrival date or his name on the "Trave" John was supposedly Orthodox. Johns Wife Julia is listed from Czechoslovakia and born on 15 August 1894.
As my ancestors English was very poor perhaps the last name is not even close or a derivative of something else, who knows..
Any hints are greatly appreciated and if there are any Geneaolgists or locals that would do a local search for me lease let me know the cost.
The search continues, thanks to all that have taken the time to read my post and to help me.
Sven
Last edited by Pavman on Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:59 am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 10:39 pm
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Sven,
You may have found US census reports already, but if not, go to familysearch.org.
John is listed in the 1940 US Census in Donora Borough, Washington, PA with wife Julia and children Irene & Margaret. They are listed under PAVELIK.
Tony is found in the 1930 & 1940 Census in New Jersey. He had a wife named Olga, and children: John, Charles, Mary, Anna, Alexander, Steve, and Anthony. He is listed under PAWLIK.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:04 am
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Thank you GenGirl, yes, I did find those census records. I am hoping somebody stumbles across this forum and either recognizes the name or may have experience with the Milik Parish records on LDS or abroad. I surely don't mind ordering a copy of the LDS films, but if they are all Cyrillic or otherwise illegible, I would be wasting my time.
All the best!
Sven
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:05 am
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| Pavman wrote: | ... recognizes the name or may have experience with the Milik Parish records on LDS or abroad. I surely don't mind ordering a copy of the LDS films, but if they are all Cyrillic or otherwise illegible, I would be wasting my time.
All the best!
Sven |
Sven,
Milik is described in the old geography book here
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_VI/426
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Milik - village in the county Nowy Sacz
... the village is accrossed by railways between stations Zegiestow and Muszyna
626 inhabitants distribution by religion: 552 Greek Catholic, 14 Roman Catholic (attached to the parish in Muszyna), and few Jews. 5 km distant from Muszyna.
Then description of Muszyna:
Greek Catholic parish, with a church (cerkwia) and a one-year school
To that parish in Muszyna is attached the village Andrzejowka, and the total distribution of inhabitants within that parish is: 977 Greek Catholic, 14 Roman Catholic, 24 Jew
... Milik has borders with Szczawnik (on its North), Zegiestow (West), Muszyna (East) and Hungary (South).
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That part of Poland was not under Russia, so no Cyrillic records here. IMHO records in that area (Austro-Hungary) were in Latin.
Actualy the Polish National Archives have some records for Milik, alas not online
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=Milik
Best,
Elzbieta
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kcarnleyPolishOrigins Patron
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:42 am
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I believe I may have found the person you are looking for:
Line #1, Janko Pawlik, age 16, arrived at the Port of New York 3 June 1906 on the ship, Trave. He is indexed as being from Vilsk, Galicy but on the actual manifest image it does look like Milsk. He is joining his brother... I'll let you decipher his name. View the manifest from Ancestry. When I used Ellis Island the link is incorrect. It sends me to a different ship.
I would not be too concerned about the dates not matching with the Naturalization records. This is common.
Keith
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:59 pm
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WOW!!! You all are great!!!!! I am very excited and grateful for the help! Trust me I have been at this for hundreds of hours and with the help of a few experienced people have really begun to really learn the ropes!
Elizabeth, thank you so much for the translation! With only 626 people in Milic and 977 in the parish, I am hopeful that some day I will find information on my European relatives!!! I hope I can obtain the parish records!
Kcarnley, thank you for the information on Janko! I agree with your record! The Ellis link was throwing me off. Also, the script is so difficult for me to read, I have not practiced cursive in over 35 years and boy is it hard to guess at what it says!
Thank you all so much!!!!
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:39 pm
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Sven,
Pawlik is Polish orthography, but Pavlik is definitely not (no letter V in Polish, it does exist only for foreign names).
The name Pawlik is very popular as you may see on today's distribution
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/pawlik.html
-- and you will note that 701 of them live in Nowy Sacz area (the one you are interested in), red piece on the South Polish border.
The name Pawluk is much less popular
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/pawluk.html
-- rather on the Eastern side of Poland.
The region of Muszyna and Szczawnik (and Krynica) are very pretty (have been there!).
Milik seems to be an old village, with very interesting history (in Polish)
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milik
You may note a beatiful old wooden cerkiew
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerkiew_%C5%9Bw._%C5%9Bw._Kosmy_i_Damiana_w_Miliku
That short explanation is of interest for you:
Pod koniec XIX w. przybrała na sile emigracja zarobkowa: stała (głównie do Ameryki) i sezonowa (na Dolne Węgry). W latach 1908-1913 na emigracji przebywało stale 15-18% mieszkańców wsi
At the end of the nineteenth century emigration intensified: permanent (mainly to America) and seasonal (to Hungary). In the years 1908-1913, about 15-18% of the rural population have been in exile.
Best,
Elzbieta
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:18 pm
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Sven,
Go to here: https://familysearch.org/catalog-search
enter the placename of "MILIK" and it will bring up several results like:
Milik, Muszyna (this one is in Galicia; but chuch records are for Greek-Catholic years 1780-1884, so won't have birth of John in 1886.
Milik, Nowy Sacz (this one is also 1780-1884)
Milik, Swidnica
Milikovice
The Muszyna and Nowy Sacz records might have the birth and marriage records of John's father, but not John's.
booby
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:36 am
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Thanks so much Bobby, yes I see the varied results and I was confused by the different names. So it looks like I may not get what I am looking for from the LDS site. It would seem my best bet would be to find a genealogist in that area to search for me, but I have heard many horror stories about scam artists just taking peoples money so I have not been to aggressive in this realm. I did find a research company that claimed to specialize in areas including Milik, but they have not responded to my email for one week so maybe I should try Karkow for someone.
Sven
| Booby wrote: | Sven,
Go to here: https://familysearch.org/catalog-search
enter the placename of "MILIK" and it will bring up several results like:
Milik, Muszyna (this one is in Galicia; but chuch records are for Greek-Catholic years 1780-1884, so won't have birth of John in 1886.
Milik, Nowy Sacz (this one is also 1780-1884)
Milik, Swidnica
Milikovice
The Muszyna and Nowy Sacz records might have the birth and marriage records of John's father, but not John's.
booby |
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