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Post Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:32 pm      Post subject: Village of Rustkowo in Russia
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Hello,
I'm looking to try and decipher this WWI draft card and the place it lists for birth. I'm having trouble matching it too any village with that spelling, and was looking for some help with maybe placing that village. I'm leaning towards Ruskowo, but I can't make out the 2nd location.
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I notice that your relative signed the draft card with his witnessed mark "x" which means he could not write. This tells me he provided the information verbally and the clerk completed the card spelling the names of the villages as best he could. Using google maps, the nearest match I found to what is written in the draft card is Ruszków Pierwszy, Poland. Anyone else have suggestions?

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He died in 1920 from tuberculosis. There are some Wheeling city records every 2 years from 1915-1919 and the 1920 census, but otherwise, this is the best lead for place of origin. I see Rustowo as a possibility, but have no idea about the second part. On his death certificate it listed his fathers name as Sower or Sewer, which could be Sczcypan? or a variation maybe? Not sure. And from what I've noticed from the records from Wheeling, most got X marked for their name, because they spoke Polish/German/Russian, but not English. One relative was Prylenski, and it got spelled Schauwanske in 1882, Scherwinski, Swinski, Schewinski, etc. Crazy spellings. One child of Stanislaw Jakubiak, was born under Eakabook.
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Hello,
I'm looking to try and decipher this WWI draft card and the place it lists for birth. I'm having trouble matching it too any village with that spelling, and was looking for some help with maybe placing that village. I'm leaning towards Ruskowo, but I can't make out the 2nd location.
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John


John,

The line 5 gives 3 names: town, state, nation.

The second name is very clear: Przaznysz, should be Przasnysz (no ambiguity here), and that gives a subsequent answer to the town name.
The town, or village name, is written Rustkowo, should be Rostkowo.

Powiat Przasnysz (przasnyski) // County Przasnysz
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powiat_przasnyski
Gmina Czernice Borowe // community Czernice Borowe
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czernice_Borowe_%28gmina%29

Rostkowo is part of the above administrative structure.
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostkowo_%28powiat_przasnyski%29

Rostkowo, przasnyski, Pologne
Rostkowo is 6 km West of Przasnysz.

The archives of Przasnysz for 1889 state they have records, in cyrillic Russian, but not on line
http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/79/104/0/-/65#tabJednostka

>>>
On his death certificate it listed his fathers name as Sower or Sewer
<<<

It could be Seweryn or Sewer, Polish first name, from Latin Severus.
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seweryn
Below Wiki compilation of first names
http://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/Indeks:Polski_-_Imiona#Imiona_m.C4.99skie

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John and Elzbieta,

Przasnyz records online available throgh Metryki:
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/pow-266
However, I did not find in 1887, 88, 89, 90 (there are some Stanislaw Jankowski)

In Geneteka there is a Stanislaw Kubiak, born in 1888, in Wegra (4 miles from Rostkowo, also in Przasznyz), and his father is listed as Ksawery, which is close to the Sower/Sawer spelling found. If it helps, mother was Wiktoria Modzelewska. Birth record #39, available on line through Poczekalnia:
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1888/_M_3389.jpg

P.S.; Just noticed the entry of the record reads Rostkowo. It must be him!

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Gilberto, John,

Gilberto found him!
I can even decipher the Cyrillic, just have doubt about the sentence of Godparents.

Parish Węgra
http://parafia.wegra.pl/historia/

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==GENETEKA
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1888/_M_3389.jpg
39 Rostkow // Rostkowo
DATE-of-ACT: /8/20/ March 1888 – 20 March 1888, 5 pm in the village Węgra
FATHER: Ksawery Jakubiak, 46 years old, residing in Rostkowo
MOTHER: Wiktorya Modzelewska, 36 years old, his wife
WITNESSES: Ksawery Modzelewski, 43 years old, and Mikolaj Bartosiewicz, 53 years old, both from Rostkowo
KTO: Stanislaw Jakubiak born /4/16/ March 1888 – 16 March 1888, 11 am, in Rostkowo
GODPARENTS: (the above witnesses?) and Aleksandra Modzelewska

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John,

I followed up Gilberto's search in GENETEKA - POCZEKALNIA, found Ksawery's birth record and his marriage record.

Both typed and translated.

Polish orthography of Xawery (birth in 1840) moved to Ksawery (marriage in 1864).

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Elzbieta

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INDEX BIRTHS
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1840/_M_0736.jpg
77 Jakubiak Xawery
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1840/_M_0732.jpg
DATE-of-ACT: 21 November 1840, 10 am, in Węgra
FATHER: Jozef Jakubiak, 23 years old, farmer residing here in Węgra
MOTHER: Anna Kulpanowska, 21 years old, his wife
KTO: Xawery Jakubiak, born 20 November 1840, 2 am, in Węgra
WITNESSES: Benedykt Kulpanowski, 50 years old, from Rostkowo, and Felicjan Jurski, farmer from Węgra, 50 years old
GODPARENTS: Benedykt Kulpanowski and Katarzyna Jakubiak

77 Węgra
Dzialo sie w wsi Węgra dnia / dziewiatego / dwudziestego pierwszego / listopada tysiac osiemset czterdziestego roku o godzinie dziesiatej przed poludniem. Stawil sie Jozef Jakubiak lat dwadziescia trzy majacy, tu w Węgrze zamieszkaly gospodarz, w obecnosci Benedykta Kulpanowskiego lat piecdziesiat z Rostkowa, tudziez Felicjana Jurska gospodarza z Węgry lat piecdziesiat majacych, okazal nam dziecie plci meskiej urodzone tu w Węgrze, na dniu wczorajszym o godzinie drugiej w nocy z jego malzonki Anny Kulpanowskiej lat dwadziescia jeden majacej. Dziecieciu temu na chrzcie swietym odbytym nadane na dniu dzisiejszym zostalo imie Xawery a rodzicami jego chrzestnymi byli wyzej wspomniany Benedykt Kulpanowski i Katarzyna Jakubiakowa. Akt ten stawajacemu i swiadkom przeczytany, podpisany zostal, stawajacy i swiadkowie pisac nie umieja.
Ksiadz Franciszek Zenobnicki? Proboszcz Węgrzecki

Translated:

It did happen in the village Węgra in the day / ninth / twenty-first / November, year one thousand eight hundred and forty, at ten o'clock before noon. Appeared in Jozef Jakubiak, twenty-three years old, farmer residing here in Węgra, in the presence of Benedykt Kulpanowski, fifty years old, from Rostkowo, and Felicjan Jurski, farmer from Węgra, fifty years old, and presented us a male child born here in Węgra, yesterday, at two o'clock in the night, with his wife Anna Kulpanowska, twenty-one years old. On the holy baptismal held today the child has been given the name Xawery and his godparents were the above-mentioned Benedykt Kulpanowski and Katarzyna Jakubiak (suffix –owa, wife of Jakubiak). This act was read to the present and witnesses, was signed by us, the present and witnesses do not know how to write.
Priest Franciszek Zenobnicki?, pastor in Węgra

INDEX MARRIAGES:
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1864/_M_1869.jpg
3 Jakubiak Ksawery z Wiktorya Modzelewska
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1864/_M_1855.jpg
MARRIAGE: 24 January 1864, 1 pm, in Węgra
GROOM: Xawery Jakubiak, young man, born in Węgra, 23 years old, residing with his parents in Rostkowo on their farm
GROOM-PARENTS: son of Jozef and Anna born Kulpanowska, spouses Jakubiak
BRIDE: Miss Wiktorya Modzelewska, born in Rostkowo, 22 years old, residing there with her parents on their farm
BRIDE-PARENTS: daughter of Jan and Maryanna born Jankowska, spouses Modzelewski,
WITNESSES: Stanislaw Krypczak 40 years old, and Andrzej Bartosiewicz 46 years old, both farmers from Rostkowo

3 Rostkowo
Dzialo sie w wsi Węgra dnia dwudziestego czwartego stycznia tysiac osiemset szescdziesiatego czwartego roku o godzinie pierwszej po poludniu. Wiadomo czynimy ze w przytomnosci swiadkow Stanislawa Krypczak lat czterdziesci i Andrzeja Bartosiewicza lat czterdziesci szesc majacym, obydwoch gospodarzy z Rostkowa, na dniu dzisiejszym zawarte zostalo religijne malzenstwo miedzy Ksawerem Jakubiakiem, mlodzianem, syn Jozefa i Anny z Kulpanowskich malzonkow Jakubiakow, urodzonym w Węgrze lat dwadziescia trzy majacym /F/, a panna Wiktorya Modzelewska, corka Jana i Maryanny z Jankowskich, malzonkow Modzelewskich, urodzona w Rostkowie lat dwadziescia dwa majaca, i tamze przy rodzicach z gospodarstwa sie utrzymujaca zostajaca. Malzenstwo to poprzedzily trzy zapowiedzie w dniach dziesiatym, siedemnastym i dwudziestym czwartym stycznia roku biezacego w parafii Węgra jako tez zezwolenie ustne obecnych aktowi malzenstwa rodzicow nowozaslubionych nastapilo. Malzonkowie nowi oswiadczaja iz umowy przedslubnej nie zawarli. Akt ten stawajacym stronom i swiadkom pisac nie umiejacym odczytany, podpisalismy.
/F/ przy rodzicach w Rostkowie z gospodarstwa sie utrzymujacych zostajacym.
Ksiadz Jan Miloszewski Proboszcz utrzymujacy Akta Stanu Cywilnego

Translated:

It did happen in the village Węgra in the twenty-fourth day of January year one thousand eight hundred and sixty-fourth, at one o'clock in the afternoon. We make it known that in the consciousness of witnesses Stanislaw Krypczak forty years old, and Andrzej Bartosiewicz forty-six years old, both farmers from Rostkowo, today has been concluded religious marriage between Xawery Jakubiak, young man, son of Jozef and Anna born Kulpanowska, spouses Jakubiak, born in Węgra, twenty three years old / F /, and Miss Wiktorya Modzelewska, daughter of Jan and Maryanna born Jankowska, spouses Modzelewski, born in Rostkowo, twenty-two years old, residing there with her parents on their farm. This marriage was preceded by three announcements in the days: tenth, seventeenth and twenty-fourth of January of the current year in the parish of Węgra, as also an oral permission from parents present to the act of marriage of the newlywed was stated. The new spouses declared they did not conclude prenuptial agreement. This act was read to the present parties and the witnesses, who do not know how to write, we signed.
/ F / residing with his parents in Rostkowo on their farm.
Priest Jan Miłoszewski, Pastor, keeping Civil Vital Records Registry

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You guys are amazing. If I make a trip overseas, lunch is on me!! Truly amazing!! Just ate lunch with Stanley's grandson yesterday.
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John,

Bojanowo (Radzanow), Gradzanowo in
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/
Krzynowlaga Mala in
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Pultusk/ or
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/pow-266

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Thanks Gilberto, I use them, but usually need a reference point to start. Wegra looks to have understandable records it looks like. Started with Josef Jakubiak, and in 1816 there are 2 born. I'll dig em up and try and scan them to here. Probably have to find the marriage between Josef and Anna Kulpanowska to narrow down which is which. Unbelievable find.
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starkey76 wrote:
You guys are amazing. If I make a trip overseas, lunch is on me!! Truly amazing!! Just ate lunch with Stanley's grandson yesterday.
John


Excellent news, hope you will come to Europe.

I want one glass of wine more, here is one generation more, Bartłomiej Jakubiak declaring the birth of his son Jozef Jakubiak in 1817.

Please note that Bartłomiej is 34 in 1817, so he was born circa 1784, in Poland - at that time we had
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rzeczpospolita_Obojga_Narod%C3%B3w

Enjoy!


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INDEX BIRTHS
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1816/_M_0658.jpg
84 Jakubiak Jozef
===========// CORRECTION: this is wrong Jozef, the good one is record 91 Jakubiak Jozef

http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1816/_M_0651.jpg
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1816/_M_0652.jpg
DATE-of-ACT: 19 March 1817, 1 pm, in Węgra
FATHER: Bartłomiej Jakubiak, 34 years old, farmer owner residing in the village Rostkowo
MOTHER: Anna Grzywacz, 34 years old, his wife
KTO: Jozef Jakubiak born 18 March 1817, 10 pm, in Węgra, house under the number sixth
WITNESSES: Michał Mrozenski, thirty-three years old, farmer in this village Rostkowo, and born Franciszek Smoleński, thirty-six years old, tenant of property [NOTE] in the village Smoleń Trzcianki

Nr 84 Rostkowo
Roku tysiecznego osiemsetnego siedemnastego, dnia dziewietnastego miesiaca marca, o godzinie pierwszej po poludniu. Przed nami, obywatelem Urzednikiem Stanu Cywilnego gminy Węgrzeskiej powiatu Przasnyskiego w departamencie Płockim. Stawil sie Bartłomiej Jakubiak, liczacy lat trzydziesci cztery, wloscianin na gospodarstwie w wsi Rostkowie zamieszkaly, i okazal nam dziecie plci meskiej, ktore urodzilo sie w domu jego pod numerem szostym, na dniu osiemnastym miesiaca i roku biezacych, o godzinie dziesiatej w nocy, oswiadczajac iz jest splodzone z niego i Anny Grzywaczewanki [suffix –anka, daughter of Grzywacz] lat trzydziesci cztery majacej, jego malzonki, i ze zyczeniem jego jest nadac mu imie Jozef. Po uczynieniu powyzszego oswiadczenia i okazaniu dzieciecia, w przytomnosci Michała Mrozenskiego liczacego lat trzydziesci trzy, gospodarza z wsi tychze Rostkowa, i urodzonego Franciszka Smoleńskiego, liczacego lat trzydziesci szesc, dzierżawnego [NOTE] (P?) w wsi Smoleń Trzcianki. Niniejszy akt urodzenia po przeczytaniu onego stawajacym podpisany zostal, ojciec dzieciecia i swiadkowie wyznali, ze pisac nie umieja.
Dyonizy Smoleński Urzednik Stanu Cywilnego

Translated:

Year one thousand eight-hundred seventeenth, nineteenth day of the month of March, at one o'clock in the afternoon. Before us, citizen and officer of the Civil Vital Records Registry of the community Węgra, county Przasnysz, department of Płock. Appeared in Bartłomiej Jakubiak, thirty-four years old, farmer owner residing in the village Rostkowo, and presented us a male child which was born in his house under the number sixth, on the eighteenth day of current month and year, at ten o'clock at night, declaring he is begotten of him and Anna Grzywacz, thirty-four years old, his wife, and that his will is to give him the name Jozef. After making the above a statement and presentation of the child, in the consciousness of Michał Mrozenski, thirty-three years old, farmer in this village Rostkowo, and born Franciszek Smoleński, thirty-six years old, tenant of property [NOTE] in the village Smoleń Trzcianki. This act of birth after being read to the present was signed, the father of the child and witnesses confessed they do not know how to write.
Dyonizy Smoleński officer of the Civil Vital Records Registry

[NOTE]
The occupation of Franciszek Smoleński seems to be important (high standing), he is tenant of a property in noble village. I cannot decipher an old word, which anyway would request for further etymology searching.
It seems that the name of this witness and the name of priest are the same - Smoleński, and, are exactly the same as the name of the villages of nobles - Smoleń, so it's even more important for everyone.
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_X/897
Right side, middle, second Smoleń on the list
2) Smoleń, okolica szlachecka, powiat przasnyski, gmina Chojnowo, parafia Węgra, odleglosc 7 wiorst od Pultuska. W obrebie jej leza a) Smoleń-Brzeczki; b) Smoleń-Daćbogi; c) Smoleń-Poluby; d) Smoleń-Trzcianka
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2) Smoleń, neighborhood with villages of nobles, Przasnysz county, community Chojnowo, parish Węgra, distance 7 wiorst from Pułtusk. Within it lie a) Smoleń-Brzeczki; b) Smoleń-Daćbogi; c) Smoleń-Poluby; d) Smoleń-Trzcianka

Chojnowo, przasnyski, Poland does exist, but not any of the above Smoleń-something
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Thanks Gilberto, I use them, but usually need a reference point to start. Wegra looks to have understandable records it looks like. Started with Josef Jakubiak, and in 1816 there are 2 born. I'll dig em up and try and scan them to here. Probably have to find the marriage between Josef and Anna Kulpanowska to narrow down which is which. Unbelievable find.
John


John,

Please have a look on my findings and translations. I got fascinated with first Gilberto's hint, and made it all.
You have Ksawery's birth in 1840 and Ksawery's marriage in 1864 - in addition to Stanislaw's birth in 1888.
Ksawery's father Jozef birth in 1817, declared by his father Bartlomiej.

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Elzbieta, I've already updated my tree, added the scans, and your translations, all but Bartomiej. Put a special thank you to you and Gilberto, and this site, on the translation. If you ever need Ancestry.com records, feel free to ask.
John

PS
I saw the index from 1816, but was unsure when I saw entry 84 and 91 both listed Jozef Jakubiak. I was going to try and find the marriage between Jozef and Anna Kulpanowska(between 1830-1840 in Wegra) to see the parents names. Or is entry 91 the same person? Added a scan of the Jozef Jakubiak #91



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Think I found 1839 marriage of Jozef Jakubiak, Anna's name looks much different than Kulpanowska...not sure. #13
John

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I think this is it from 1840, looks like I can read Anna Kulpowski, or close to it in part of it from 1840. Is it odd sometimes the marriages are before the births in the books? From the looks of it there were 2 Jozef's I think, I'm hoping the marriage records will help tell which was which.



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Think I found 1839 marriage of Jozef Jakubiak, Anna's name looks much different than Kulpanowska...not sure. #13
John

PS
I think this is it from 1840, looks like I can read Anna Kulpowski, or close to it in part of it from 1840. Is it odd sometimes the marriages are before the births in the books? From the looks of it there were 2 Jozef's I think, I'm hoping the marriage records will help tell which was which.


John,

The 1839 record is not yours.

The good one is here, in 1840 February (perfect for a baby Ksawery in November).

INDEX MARRIAGES
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1840/_M_0712.jpg
3 Jakubiak Jozef
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Mlawa/Wegra/1840/_M_0702.jpg

I will type and translate now.

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