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rsowa
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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:34 am Post subject: weiś Kłin Gacki

Attached is part of the marriage banns from the Sietesz parish for my great grandfather, Jacob Sowa when he married Franciszka Chielań in 1878.

The top row is Jacob's place of birth, which I read as "Jaroslaw Łańcut weis Klin Gacki".
The next is his current residence "Klin"
The bottom is his current parish "Gać".

I have two questions about his birth location.

1. Am I correct in assuming that the first entry is Powiat = Jaroslaw and gmina = Łańcut ?

2. Where in the world is Klin? I can find Gać easily enough...a village about 5 km north of Sietez, but haven't found Klin.

Thanks in advance,
Richard

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:11 am Post subject:

Hi Richard,
I read the first word as "Starostwo." From the word Starosta.
Best regards,
Sophia

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Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:05 am Post subject: Re: weiś Kłin Gacki

rsowa wrote:

Richard,

Map attached.

Gilberto

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Sophia
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 8:52 am Post subject:

Hi Gilberto,
Nice! I had looked in my Polska Atlas Drogowy and it does not show this Klin. I would like to know what mapping tool you used to find this village.
Thanks!
Sophia

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:08 am Post subject:

Interesting. On a recently released Austrian-Hungarian map scan (originally 1852), Klin belonged to Kosina village http://www.skany.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/show.php?zesp=126&cd=0&ser=0&syg=783M - look for scan #11. Maybe at some point parish borders were moved.

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:20 am Post subject:

Sophia wrote:

Hi Gilberto,
Nice! I had looked in my Polska Atlas Drogowy and it does not show this Klin. I would like to know what mapping tool you used to find this village.
Thanks!
Sophia

Hello, Sophia

It is mapa.szukacz.pl

Gilberto

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 9:25 am Post subject:

Thanks, Gilberto! I just tried it out with a town that I am interested in - - it even shows the population. Perfect. Best regards, Sophia

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 10:34 am Post subject:

Yep...both the links you guys posted are excellent sources. I download the map images from the www.skany.przemysl.ap.gov.pl site and tried to find the house number that was listed on some baptismal records I had for 1848-1855. It turns out the house number on the map is much farther north, near the middle of the village clearly labeled Kosina. I'd be curious to know if those house numbers on the map stayed the same over the years.

Another interesting research opportunity comes with the numbers assigned to every single piece of land on the map. I am sure those are some sort of tax identification. It would be great of there were a listing available of who owned what, taxes they paid, etc.

Richard

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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:17 am Post subject:

There are no buildings on Gać side of the Klin at 1852, so your records may indicate Kosina village indeed. Just in case, there is also Gać and Sietesz maps, no Manasterz (near Kańczuga) yet.
These numbers should be accurate over the years, probably until First WW.

You are right about taxes reasons of numbers on fields. The listing is called "operat" and from what i know, we should just wait, who knows when National Przemyśl Archives gonna release such scans too.

Side note: In earlier time i 've made an attempt to edit scans of other nearby villages of my ancestors, to make all pieces together. It's really pleasure to watch just one big map. I may edit maps of Kosina and Gać and some more in the future.

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