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valerie potuck

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Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:46 am Post subject: Pletnik family in Harackec Suwalki

Is there such a place as Harackec Suwalki? I am having a difficult time finding any info on my grandfather Joseph Pletnik born Mar 21 1888 from Harackek Suwalki imagrated 1900 & lived in Chicago Ill. The death record states his parents are Anten Pletnik & Anna Flachek. I have not been able to find his immigration records. Would appreciate any help & direction on being able to further my research on this family from Suwalki.

Elzbieta Porteneuve
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 11:34 am Post subject: Re: Pletnik family in Harackec Suwalki

valerie potuck wrote:

Valerie,

All names seems to me being transformed, and in such a way I have difficulities to guess original Polish writing.

1. Harackec Suwalki

Could it be Hańcza Stara, with terrible writing?

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmina_Ha%C5%84cza_Stara
In old geography book, it is written that Hańcza Stara was one of 16 communities of the county Suwalki:
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_XI/614

Today name is Stara Hańcza (old Hańcza instead of Hańcza old). It is very close to Lithuanian border

2. Searching Flachek

Nobody, but few Flach and Flacha (flacha - google says flagon or carboy; it is a bottle for wine or other drink).
Flaszka is bottle too (sz in Polish is spelled like ch).

57 Flach
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/flach.html
96 Flacha
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/flacha.html
208 Flaszka (sz in Polish is spelled like ch)
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/flaszka.html

3. Searching Pletnik

Nobody in today Poland

Stankiewicze gives etymology for Pletnik, so that name did exist
http://www.stankiewicze.com/index.php?kat=44&sub=760

Pletnik - od pleść ‘łączyć pasma czegoś; mówić bez sensu’, plotę, plotka ‘niesprawdzona pogłoska’.
// first is to weave; second is to speak no sense, tell stories, gossips

I found (today Poland)
51 Piętnik -- assuming "i" was taken for "l", and diacritic wipped out
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/pi%25C4%2599tnik.html

37 Płotnik (etymology would be płot, fence)
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/p%25C5%2582otnik.html

I tried with other diacritics, but nothing, alas.

Best,
Elzbieta

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Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:20 am Post subject:

Valerie and Elzbieta,

www.stevemorse.org > Ellis Island Golf form lists many Plitnik from Suwalki, including a Jozef, though the birth year does not match.

Gilberto

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