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Kmichael8



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Post Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:48 am      Post subject: Re: Surname Kocinski
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lclayco wrote:
Hello,
This is the birth record of a daughter of my great aunt Anna Kocinski.
Any help with translation would be very helpful to confirm where they lived in Poland.
Thank you.

My maiden name is Kocinsky. My grandfather changed the i to a y at some point.

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LaVon Claycomb


Hello LaVon,

Please find attached the translation:

A. [indicating it’s a birth record] No. 260.
Adelnau, on October 1, 1885.

Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, the identity approved through a certificate issued today by the mayor of the village Swieca with the name Fabisch [Ortsschulze Fabisch zu Swieca], the cottager [Häusler] Ignatz Kocinski, residing in Swieca, of Catholic religion, and gave notice that

Anna Kitta, born Kocinska, wife of the worker [Arbeiter] Mathias Kitta, both of Catholic religion, residing in Swieca in the flat of the notice giver, on October 1 of the year thousand eight hundred and eighty five, at one o’clock a.m. gave birth to a female child and that the child received the name Marie, what the notice giver confesses from his own knowledge.

Read aloud, authorized and signed.
Ignatz Kocinski
The Registrar.
(Signature).

Swieca was a village in the county [Kreis] Adelnau, government district [Regierungsbezirk] Posen, province Posen, Prussia. Location East 17°42' North 51°32'. Adelnau was the location of the Civil Registration Office.

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Hello,

Can I please ask for assistance finishing the translation of this German birth record? This is an ancestor of mine. I can understand some of the components but I have trouble with the handwriting and deciphering characters.

This is what I've gathered so far;

Act Number 191
Registered on 5 November 1891 in Tremessen
Reported by: ? Poszluszna
Child Name; Salomea Iwanska
Father: Jozef Iwanski
Mother: Marianna Iwanska (nee Posluszna)

Can someone please help me fill in the blanks on the other sections? Thank you.



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Post Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 5:37 am      Post subject:
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adame24 wrote:
Hello,

Can I please ask for assistance finishing the translation of this German birth record? This is an ancestor of mine. I can understand some of the components but I have trouble with the handwriting and deciphering characters.

This is what I've gathered so far;

Act Number 191
Registered on 5 November 1891 in Tremessen
Reported by: ? Poszluszna
Child Name; Salomea Iwanska
Father: Jozef Iwanski
Mother: Marianna Iwanska (nee Posluszna)

Can someone please help me fill in the blanks on the other sections? Thank you.


Hello,

Please find attached how I would read this record:

A. [indicating it’s a birth record] No. 141.

Tremessen, on November 5, 1891.

Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, of known identity, the worker’s wife [Arbeiterfrau] Rosalie Poszluszna, born Lemrau, residing in Tremessen, of ____ [religion was not provided] religion, and gave notice that

Marianna Iwanska, nee Posluszna, wife of the worker [Arbeiter] Jozef Iwanski, both of Catholic religion, residing with her husband in Debno [see comment below] in his flat, on October 25 of the year thousand eight hundred and ninety one, at ten o’clock p.m. gave birth to a female child and that the child received the name Salomea, what the notice giver confesses from his own knowledge.

Read aloud, authorized and signed.
R. Poszluszna
The Registrar.
(Signature).
The accordance with the main register is approved.
Tremessen on November 5, 1891.
The Registrar.
[Signature]

Comment: The name of the parents’ residence looks like “Debno”. On the first page of the book of this year’s birth records is a list of “Landgemeinden” that were allocated to the civil registry office of Tremessen. There is no “Debno”. What comes nearest to what is written in the birth record seems to be “Duszno”.

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Michael
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:02 pm      Post subject:
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Kmichael8 wrote:
adame24 wrote:
Hello,

Can I please ask for assistance finishing the translation of this German birth record? This is an ancestor of mine. I can understand some of the components but I have trouble with the handwriting and deciphering characters.

This is what I've gathered so far;

Act Number 191
Registered on 5 November 1891 in Tremessen
Reported by: ? Poszluszna
Child Name; Salomea Iwanska
Father: Jozef Iwanski
Mother: Marianna Iwanska (nee Posluszna)

Can someone please help me fill in the blanks on the other sections? Thank you.


Hello,

Please find attached how I would read this record:

A. [indicating it’s a birth record] No. 141.

Tremessen, on November 5, 1891.

Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, of known identity, the worker’s wife [Arbeiterfrau] Rosalie Poszluszna, born Lemrau, residing in Tremessen, of ____ [religion was not provided] religion, and gave notice that

Marianna Iwanska, nee Posluszna, wife of the worker [Arbeiter] Jozef Iwanski, both of Catholic religion, residing with her husband in Debno [see comment below] in his flat, on October 25 of the year thousand eight hundred and ninety one, at ten o’clock p.m. gave birth to a female child and that the child received the name Salomea, what the notice giver confesses from his own knowledge.

Read aloud, authorized and signed.
R. Poszluszna
The Registrar.
(Signature).
The accordance with the main register is approved.
Tremessen on November 5, 1891.
The Registrar.
[Signature]

Comment: The name of the parents’ residence looks like “Debno”. On the first page of the book of this year’s birth records is a list of “Landgemeinden” that were allocated to the civil registry office of Tremessen. There is no “Debno”. What comes nearest to what is written in the birth record seems to be “Duszno”.

Best regards,
Michael


Michael,

Thank you for your efforts! Could the birthplace be Lubin? The reason I bring this up is because I have the birth record of her brother Stanislaus who was born the year prior. This reads as "Lubin" to me and I've attached Stanislaus's record too. Does that seem possible?

Adam



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Post Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:53 am      Post subject:
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Michael,

Thank you for your efforts! Could the birthplace be Lubin? The reason I bring this up is because I have the birth record of her brother Stanislaus who was born the year prior. This reads as "Lubin" to me and I've attached Stanislaus's record too. Does that seem possible?

Adam


Adam,

You’re welcome. The registrar’s handwriting in Salomea’s record leaves plenty of room for interpretation – compare for example the “r” in “Arbeiter” mit the “o” in “katholisch” or in “Wohnung”. So yes, I think you might be right. I read the brother’s birthplace as Lubin, too. That is a strong argument.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:44 am      Post subject: German Record Translation
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G'day

Could I get a translation of the attached death record please.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:00 am      Post subject: Re: German Record Translation
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TedMack wrote:
G'day

Could I get a translation of the attached death record please.

Thanks


Hello,

Please find attached the translation.

C. [indicating it’s a death record] No. 100.

Sobótka, on September 7, 1903.

Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, the identity approved by the laborer [Arbeiter] Simon Kuchta from here, the cottager [Häusler] Anton Zsiebkowski, residing in Bismarksdorf, and gave notice that

the laborer [Arbeiter] Valonty Kordylaszywki, 95 years old, of Catholic religion, residing in Bismarksdorf, born in Borucin, name of the parents unknown, husband of the deceased worker Marianna born Szepanska in Bismarksdorf in his flat on September 5 of the year thousand nine hundred and three, at five o’clock p.m. had died. The notice giver declared that he is informed about the death from his own knowledge.

Read aloud, authorized and because the notice giver cannot write, marked with his sign.
+++
The Registrar.
As deputy
Teske.

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Michael
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:31 am      Post subject: Re: German Record Translation
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Kmichael8 wrote:
TedMack wrote:
G'day

Could I get a translation of the attached death record please.

Thanks


Hello,

Please find attached the translation.

C. [indicating it’s a death record] No. 100.

Sobótka, on September 7, 1903.

Before the undersigned registrar appeared today, the identity approved by the laborer [Arbeiter] Simon Kuchta from here, the cottager [Häusler] Anton Zsiebkowski, residing in Bismarksdorf, and gave notice that

the laborer [Arbeiter] Valonty Kordylaszywki, 95 years old, of Catholic religion, residing in Bismarksdorf, born in Borucin, name of the parents unknown, husband of the deceased worker Marianna born Szepanska in Bismarksdorf in his flat on September 5 of the year thousand nine hundred and three, at five o’clock p.m. had died. The notice giver declared that he is informed about the death from his own knowledge.

Read aloud, authorized and because the notice giver cannot write, marked with his sign.
+++
The Registrar.
As deputy
Teske.

Best regards,
Michael


Thank You - that was very quick
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Hello, would someone kindly translate this Baptism Record for me, I am wanting to know the names of the Godparents, what I have so far is-

Baptism for Auguste Rohde

Auguste Rohde
Female
Birth Date: 3 August, 1844
Baptism: 18 August, 1844
Baptism Place: PR Mark Danzig-Westpreussen, (Preuschmark)
Father: Johann Rohde
Mother: Regina Rohde
Living in the nearby village Kamersdorf.



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Hello, would someone kindly translate this Baptism Record for me, I am wanting to know the names of the Godparents, what I have so far is-

Baptism for Auguste Rohde

Auguste Rohde
Female
Birth Date: 3 August, 1844
Baptism: 18 August, 1844
Baptism Place: PR Mark Danzig-Westpreussen, (Preuschmark)
Father: Johann Rohde
Mother: Regina Rohde
Living in the nearby village Kamersdorf.


Hello,

I think, you got it so far. Two minor additions: The mother's maiden name is Aust and the name of the village Kämmersdorf. Regarding the names of the Godparents Catharina, Daniel and Emilie I wonder whether you could provide a scan with a higher resolution for this part of the record.

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Post Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:58 am      Post subject: Baptism Translation
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Hello Michael, Thank you so much for your help with this translation. I am not sure how to do a higher resolution, but have tried this, hope it is a little better to read.
Christine



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Post Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:09 am      Post subject: Re: Baptism Translation
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rose family wrote:
Hello Michael, Thank you so much for your help with this translation. I am not sure how to do a higher resolution, but have tried this, hope it is a little better to read.
Christine


Hello Christine,

Thank you. It is a little better to read, but there is still a lot of guessing. There are three entries. The structure of each of them is: No., given name, family name, an information about the status and the place of residence. Catharina and Daniel seem to share the same family name as well as the same residence. So what I read is:

1. Catharina Eichler, Stxxxfrau, Kdorf [Kämmersdorf]
2. Daniel Eichler, Drechsler [wood turner], Kämmersdorf
3. Emilie Leirat, Tochter des [daughter of] xxx aus Gxx

Hope, this helps.
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Post Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:14 am      Post subject: Translation
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Thank You, yes, it does help heaps, now I have the names of Godparents I can look to see if they could be a relative to Johanne and Regina. Thank you again!
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Post Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 9:39 pm      Post subject: Help with German
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I would like to revisit one of the records that was translated
I am interested in the what is written at the top of the pages as well as what is in the top of each column.
(St. Peter and Paul Church in Pogutki)

Question 1: What is the word before 1941?
[/b]Question 2:[/b] What is written on the top of the next page?
Top page 1 Top Page 2
____?____ 1842 Datum (date) sch?___?_____

Question 3: What is the heading of column 1? I can infer it but I would like to know the exact word.
Column 1 ____?__________ (Order of birth: #17 and the town of residence : Poschmin
___________________________________________________________________________
Column 2 dur gebaren birth 19 Februar 7 Uhr der morgen : 19 February at 7 AM
Column 3 (dur) taufe baptism 22 Februar: 22 Febrary
Column 4 dur neugeborene kinder (Name of) the newborn child: Cacilia

Column 5 dur Elter: the parents
____________________________________________________________________________-

Question 4: Column 6 - I would have expected Patin but it looks like Pachen Is that a variant spelling?

Column 6 dur Pachen

Question 5: What is the word that heads this column? I was looking for something like : Pfarrer.
Column 7 dur __?____ ___?___ (Mr. Rev.) Lamparski



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Post Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 11:58 am      Post subject: Re: Help with German
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Louie wrote:
I would like to revisit one of the records that was translated
I am interested in the what is written at the top of the pages as well as what is in the top of each column.
(St. Peter and Paul Church in Pogutki)


Hello Louie,

Please find the answers in bold:

Question 1: What is the word before 1842? "Namen"
[/b]Question 2:[/b] What is written on the top of the next page?
Top page 1: Datum [hard to recognize] Namen 1842 Top page 2: Datum (date) Namen
[“Datum” is header for two columns: date of birth and date of baptism. “Namen” is header for four columns: name of the newborn child, of the parents, of the godparents, of the Baptist]


Question 3: What is the heading of column 1? I can infer it but I would like to know the exact word.
Column 1: Wohnort: residence (Order of birth: #17 and the town of residence : Poschmin)
___________________________________________________________________________
Column 2 [Datum] der Geburt: birth 19 Februar 7 Uhr der morgen : 19 February at 7 AM
Column 3 [Datum] der Taufe: baptism 22 Februar: 22 Febrary
Column 4 [Namen] des neugeborenen Kindes: (Name of) the newborn child:Caecilia [I would assume this is an “ä” written as “ae”]

Column 5 [Namen] der Eltern: the parents
____________________________________________________________________________-

Question 4: Column 6 - I would have expected Patin but it looks like Pachen Is that a variant spelling?

Column 6 [Namen] der Pathen: the Godparents [In 19th Century German you will find a lot of “h” like in Pathen that are uncommon today.]

Question 5: What is the word that heads this column? I was looking for something like : Pfarrer.
Column 7 [Namen] des Täufers: name of the baptist (Mr. Rev.) Lamparski

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Michael
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