txtb
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 3:50 pm
Post subject: Research in Poland - Witkowo
Hello, I am researching for Krienke ancestors. I have located some family members in the Witkowo area. Specifically, I am searching for the birth record of Robert Krienke, b. 21 Oct 1844. I have his parents' marriage record, from Witkowo, on 23 Oct 1842, as well as his mother's death record on 9 Apr 1845, of Wiekowo, and his father's subsequent marriage later that year, also in Witkowo. His father is August Daniel Krienke and mother is Anna Susanne Dobrotsch. Anyone have suggestions on where I can find this elusive birth record for Robert? Or perhaps an earlier child? I'm attaching the documents I have (listed above). (Note that Anna Susanne is incorrectly named on the death record as Anna Rosine.)
Many thanks,
Terry Brawner
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 4:06 pm
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Hi,
Welcome to the Forum! Could you tell us which Witkowo you are talking about. There are several places called Witkowo.
Regards,
-Barb
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txtb
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 6:17 pm
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I have checked the Evangelical parish in Witkowo. Found the wedding from 1842, and the death record from 1845. But no children of the couple born between 1842-45. How did you find out that Robert was born on 21.10.1844?
The first child I can see is Emilie born in 1846.
-Barb
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txtb
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Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2025 8:54 pm
Post subject: Research in Poland - Witkowo
Hi, I only have this information from a public member tree on Ancestry. Here's the link to the tree/profile: https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/79878170/person/30473912623/facts. Birth and death dates match to a record found on Find A Grave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126459933/robert-krienke. I know this is the right person, so I'm working on getting documentation for his birth. And I'm curious if there's an older child, born before Robert.
After Robert's mother died, his father re-married, to Louise Dobrotsch, a sister of his first wife. Emilie is the first child of the second marriage. I've found 11 children for them, recorded in Witkowo. We have a DNA match to this line, and we descend from a brother of Robert's father, Daniel.
Thank you for your help!
Terry
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:12 am
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Hi Terry and Barb,
I took a look at Meyer's Gazetteer for the entry on Witkowo. Here is a link to that:
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/21172026
If you click on the tab for "map" you will get a lovely map of the area.
Then, if you click on the tab for "ecclesiastical" you will see other churches listed in order of proximity to Witkowo. Since the records you posted were for the protestant church, I looked for the next closest protestant church which is in Powidz and I did not see anything there for the Krienke family. So I went to the next one, Tremessen. I did find a Krienke family there.
Here is the 1843 marriage record for a Christoph Krinke, son of Daniel Krienke if I am reading that correctly (marriage #9):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSX8-PSW6-K?cat=koha%3A771160&i=381&lang=en&cc=4116415
And here are the baptism records for the year 1844. In baptism #6, Christoph Krienke is the father. The mother is Anna.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSX8-PSH4-7?cat=koha%3A771160&i=439&lang=en&cc=4116415
At first I took the "ditto" mark in the column for the father's name literally, which would have meant that Christoph Krienke was also the father of the boy in baptism #7, an illegitimate birth, but surely that was an error on the part of the person writing the document.
I did not follow through to see if there were additional Krienke children born there. I just wanted to see if there were Krienke families in the vicinity of Witkowo. You may want to continue exploring nearby churches to see if you can find your Robert or any earlier child, since children can be born and baptized when the family is away from home visiting extended family.
Just to add a note here, I do not have access to Ancestry so I do not know if Christoph is already in your tree.
Best regards,
Sophia
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 6:37 am
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Hi Sophia,
I have checked neighboring parishes. Both Catholic and Evangelical. All I find are the children from his second marriage. I don't know if Witkowo is father's birthplace or where he moved after he married the Dobrotsch sisters. It seems that he lived for a few years (1842-45) in another place.
-Barb
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txtb
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:49 am
Post subject: Research in Poland - Witkowo
Hi Sophia and Barb,
Sophia, the records in Tremessen are new to me. I need to look at these to see if it's the same family. I'm finding several Krienke's with the same names, which makes it difficult to make sure I have the correct people connected. I think you are correct about the "ditto" mark for Christoph being the father of the child in the #7 record.
I do not have the Krienke line in my Ancestry tree yet.
Barb,
I don't have a birthplace for Daniel, his estimated birthdate is 1815-1817, based on his marriage age, and his naturalization application. Daniel, along with sons Robert & Julius, and daughter Wilhelmine, immigrated to the US in 1880, separately. In Daniel's 1st marriage record, it seems to say he is from (or living in) Ruchocinek?
I am also researching Daniel's brother, Gottlieb, as this is my mother's direct line, for a possible birthplace. I have an estimated birthday of 1807 for him, but no birthplace. His marriage record is in Witkowo (to Anna Susanna Schneider), in 1836. I've found 7 children for them here.
I've also looked at the Dobrotsch family (sisters married to Daniel Krienke), wondering if Anna Susanne might have gone to visit her family near the birth time of Robert, but the Dobrotsch family is also from Witkowo. So, I'm not sure where else to look!
Thank you both for your help!
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:37 am
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Here is the death record for Gottlieb. This confirms the estimated birth year of 1807. Attached in case you haven't seen this.
His marriage record gives an estimated birth year of 1810.
Do you know this resource?
https://www.familysearch.org/no/search/collection/4116415
-Barb
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txtb
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2025 12:40 pm
Post subject: Research in Poland - Witkowo
Hi Barb,
Yes, I did find this record!  I just cannot find his birth record, or Daniel's, or their father... I have found an Andreas Krienke who died 18 Feb 1849 in Kolmar (Kries Kolmar), and a second marriage record on 8 Jul 1827 to Caroline Salzwedel, and a couple of children, but not Gottlieb or Daniel.
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