Posted: 4 Days ago at 6:17 pm
Post subject: Heinrich Albert Komant
Hello, I have hit a wall with this man.
Any help will be appreciated.
The birth place is as written on his death certificate.
Many thanks.
Friedrich Komant and Karolina Unknown
Their son
Heinrich Albert Komant
born 12 March 1885, Lessovchesna, Volhynia, Poland / Russia
Immigrated to Canada in 1911
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 2:50 am
Post subject: Re: Heinrich Albert Komant
| gyoungest wrote: | Hello, I have hit a wall with this man.
Any help will be appreciated.
The birth place is as written on his death certificate.
Many thanks.
Friedrich Komant and Karolina Unknown
Their son
Heinrich Albert Komant
born 12 March 1885, Lessovchesna, Volhynia, Poland / Russia
Immigrated to Canada in 1911 |
Hi,
Could you share any documents with us? Ship’s manifest ...
The place name was most likely written as the scribe heard it. It also appears that they belonged to the Evangelical Church.
Regards,
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 4:40 am
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Hi gyoungest and Barb,
What do you think about the possibility of Lesovshchina / Lisivshchyna in the Zhytomyr oblast?
Sophia
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:31 am
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Hello,
You are better than an AI, Sophia. Yes, I agree with you. It is Lesowszczyzna (Ukrainian: Лісівщина).
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 5:55 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: | Hello,
You are better than an AI, Sophia. Yes, I agree with you. It is Lesowszczyzna (Ukrainian: Лісівщина).
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
Thanks! I much prefer people with actual intelligence to machines with artificial intelligence.
You will be interested to know that when I received the email just now from Polish Origins telling me there was a reply to my post this morning, and I clicked on the link it provided, it gave me an error message that said the message did not exist. And yet your reply to me is obviously here. I wonder if it happens this when, when you post a reply but later edit it? Or maybe you posted a reply, thought about it, deleted it and posted a new one?
How odd.
Sophia
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Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2026 10:09 am
Post subject: Re: Heinrich Albert Komant
| BarbOslo wrote: | | gyoungest wrote: | Hello, I have hit a wall with this man.
Any help will be appreciated.
The birth place is as written on his death certificate.
Many thanks.
Friedrich Komant and Karolina Unknown
Their son
Heinrich Albert Komant
born 12 March 1885, Lessovchesna, Volhynia, Poland / Russia
Immigrated to Canada in 1911 |
Hi,
Could you share any documents with us? Ship’s manifest ...
The place name was most likely written as the scribe heard it. It also appears that they belonged to the Evangelical Church.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb, Sophia, & gyounest,
It seems the Heinrich went to Canada. Heinrich was married in Canada in 1914. Only a marriage index is available. HeHeinrich died in Canada. Only an index is available. There are several trees online all with the same information.
I did find this possible manifest for Heinrich. It doesn't list a town of origin.
Possible Manifest
Name Heinrich Komond
Departure Date 10 apr. 1911 (10 Apr 1911)
Departure Place Bremen
Departure Ship Samland (Europa - Noord-Amerika)
Arrival Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Access # 318-04 Archieven van de Holland Amerika Lijn (HAL): Passage A
Inventory # 1121
Folio # 56
Source Description Register Van Passagegelden, Lijn Naar Canada: 1911, Mrt.-Apr., 01-03-1911 T/M 30-04-1911
Source Citation
Stadsarchief Rotterdam; Rotterdam, Nederland; Archieven van de Holland Amerika Lijn (HAL): Passage A; URL: https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/
Regards,
Trish
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Posted: Yesterday at 12:35 am
Post subject: Re: Heinrich Albert Komant
| Trish wrote: | | BarbOslo wrote: | | gyoungest wrote: | Hello, I have hit a wall with this man.
Any help will be appreciated.
The birth place is as written on his death certificate.
Many thanks.
Friedrich Komant and Karolina Unknown
Their son
Heinrich Albert Komant
born 12 March 1885, Lessovchesna, Volhynia, Poland / Russia
Immigrated to Canada in 1911 |
Hi,
Could you share any documents with us? Ship’s manifest ...
The place name was most likely written as the scribe heard it. It also appears that they belonged to the Evangelical Church.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb, Sophia, & gyounest,
It seems the Heinrich went to Canada. Heinrich was married in Canada in 1914. Only a marriage index is available. HeHeinrich died in Canada. Only an index is available. There are several trees online all with the same information.
I did find this possible manifest for Heinrich. It doesn't list a town of origin.
Possible Manifest
Name Heinrich Komond
Departure Date 10 apr. 1911 (10 Apr 1911)
Departure Place Bremen
Departure Ship Samland (Europa - Noord-Amerika)
Arrival Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Access # 318-04 Archieven van de Holland Amerika Lijn (HAL): Passage A
Inventory # 1121
Folio # 56
Source Description Register Van Passagegelden, Lijn Naar Canada: 1911, Mrt.-Apr., 01-03-1911 T/M 30-04-1911
Source Citation
Stadsarchief Rotterdam; Rotterdam, Nederland; Archieven van de Holland Amerika Lijn (HAL): Passage A; URL: https://stadsarchief.rotterdam.nl/zoek-en-ontdek/
Regards,
Trish |
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Posted: Yesterday at 12:40 am
Post subject: Heinrich Albert Komant
Hello Barb, Sophia and Trish,
I'm not quite sure if I am replying in the correct space.
Thank you so, so much for your help, I am delighted to have a response and especially with new information for me.
The death certificate is the only document I have for this man, the birth place recorded is a very complicated word for me and as mentioned was likely written phonetically.
I have since noticed the death certificate records the birth date as 23 March 1882, it was other family information that show it as 12 March 1885.
Would BMD records for the years 1880 - 1885 for Lesowszczyzna be online ? Though I don't speak, read either Polish or German I can recognize names and places in the records. And I'm especially pleased when I see 'geb'. 
Again, thank you so much for your assistance.
Cheers, Gay
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Posted: Yesterday at 5:53 am
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Hi Gay, Trish and Barb,
Regarding where vital records for Lesowszczyna may be, I hope Barb can help with that because I do not see them on Family Search.
Trish, the document you posted is a record from the Holland America Line showing the purchase of a ticket and the crucial details of the name of the ship (the Samland) and its date of sailing (departure 10 April 1911). The arrival manifest is on the website of the government of Canada, here:
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=paslisandborent&id=4580230&lang=eng&ecopy=e003897601
However, I am having a terrible time getting it to show up on my computer screen with sufficient resolution to be able to read it. What I can say is this: this incoming passenger list indexes him as "Heinrich Kornond." He is the last passenger on that page. It shows him as 26 years old, from Russia (the form does not ask for a city or town), and it says he is a farm laborer. He was headed to Winnipeg, Manitoba as you already know from what Trish posted. The very last column asks for religion. Scanning down the page, you can see some are "r. cath." (roman catholic), some "gr. cath." and others "greek" (both mean greek catholic). It is difficult to decipher for Heinrich, but given Barb's earlier comment, it may very well say "evang." for evangelical.
If anyone has a subscription to some other genealogy website that will show the manifest for the Samland arriving in Canada in 1911, it would be nice to get a better image of this record.
Did he continue living in Manitoba? Or did he move to Saskatchewan or Alberta? I am not seeing the Family Search trees that you mentioned, Trish, and I am not seeing any records for him on the Manitoba vital records website.
Sophia
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:08 am
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Hello everyone,
As mentioned earlier, I believe they were Evangelicals. I searched and searched, but I couldn’t find anything for Lesowszczyzna (Ukrainian: Лісівщина). Zhytomyr is about 20 km from that place, and I assume that was the nearest parish. I checked the year 1885 yesterday, but I didn’t find him. That doesn’t mean he isn’t there. I have observed many very late baptisms in 1885 (ranging from a few weeks old to several years old). It is possible that Henrich Albert appears in later years. I used this link:
https://www.familysearch.org/no/search/catalog/koha:1407258
-Barb
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Posted: Yesterday at 6:21 am
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P.S. to Barb, again I got the message that your post does not exist when I clicked on the link in my notification email.
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Posted: Yesterday at 7:02 am
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Sophia, thank you for the link about Zhytomyr.
Yes, I also received similar emails both yesterday and today.
Now back to tennis and the Roland-Garros tournament in Paris.
-Barb
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Posted: Yesterday at 9:02 am
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| Sophia wrote: | Hi Gay, Trish and Barb,
Regarding where vital records for Lesowszczyna may be, I hope Barb can help with that because I do not see them on Family Search.
Trish, the document you posted is a record from the Holland America Line showing the purchase of a ticket and the crucial details of the name of the ship (the Samland) and its date of sailing (departure 10 April 1911). The arrival manifest is on the website of the government of Canada, here:
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=paslisandborent&id=4580230&lang=eng&ecopy=e003897601
However, I am having a terrible time getting it to show up on my computer screen with sufficient resolution to be able to read it. What I can say is this: this incoming passenger list indexes him as "Heinrich Kornond." He is the last passenger on that page. It shows him as 26 years old, from Russia (the form does not ask for a city or town), and it says he is a farm laborer. He was headed to Winnipeg, Manitoba as you already know from what Trish posted. The very last column asks for religion. Scanning down the page, you can see some are "r. cath." (roman catholic), some "gr. cath." and others "greek" (both mean greek catholic). It is difficult to decipher for Heinrich, but given Barb's earlier comment, it may very well say "evang." for evangelical.
If anyone has a subscription to some other genealogy website that will show the manifest for the Samland arriving in Canada in 1911, it would be nice to get a better image of this record.
Did he continue living in Manitoba? Or did he move to Saskatchewan or Alberta? I am not seeing the Family Search trees that you mentioned, Trish, and I am not seeing any records for him on the Manitoba vital records website.
Sophia |
Hi Sophia, Barb, and Gay,
Sophia, I was only able to find the record for the ticket for the manifest. I'll keep looking to see if I find something.
This is the information from a tree on ancestry.com.
Heinrich Komant (Henry)
Birth 22 Mar 1885 • Lessovchesna, Wolhynia, Poland
Death 24 Jul 1948 • Ardrossan, Alberta, Canada
Married: 2 Nov 1914 • Strathcona, Alberta, Canada
Spouse:
Emma Busenius
Birth 19 Mar 1896 • Volyn', Ukraine
Death 12 Feb 1975 • Kelowna, British Columbia
Please note that per Heinrich's obituary, he had 6 sons and 6 daughters. I can post the obituary if anyone needs to see it.
Here is the link to the family tree on family search.
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/L5Y3-GY2
Comment: I did not get any notifications that there was information posted to this thread.
Regards,
Trish
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Posted: Yesterday at 9:18 am
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Hi Everyone,
Found this great article about Heinrich and Emma. This is the best picture I can get of the article. It states Heinrich's mother and step-father were already in Alberta.
Gay, do you know anything about Karolina and her second husband?
Regards,
Trish
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