Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:58 am
Post subject: Research help. Getting started
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:42 am
Post subject: Re: Research help. Getting started
| Dklepas wrote: |
| Hello! New to the forum.
My great grandfather’s name was Herman Klepaski. Through family search I have found A World War I record. Two United States Census’ from 1930 and 1940 in the USA. But I have no information past him (his parents). The family story is that he was from bialystok. He was born March 26th 1882 He listed on his US World War I draft registration card as being named Heronim Klepaski. We assume this is Herman. As his address is on south Sheridan in Wilkes barre Pennsylvania which is where his address was listed during the 1930 and 1940 census He had a wife. Camille Adamski. Her last name is consistently spelled Adamski. But her first name is spelled multiple ways. Camilla. Kamilla. Kamille. Hi Dklepas, I’ll offer some suggestions for additional research in the USA before attempting to cross the pond. Family Search is a good (& free) resource. Here are links to two docs from family search: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67Y9-PDJ?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AVQFY-KB6&action=view&cc=1861144 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9PRQ-96QK?view=index&personArk=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKHF3-2VC&action=view I would recommend contacting the Parish where they worshiped to request Sacramental records. The civil marriage license of their daughter Martha shows that the family was residing at 295 S. Sherman in 1935. An important piece of info which often is overlooked is the return signed by the officiant at the wedding. It was Rev. Charles Zawol, who had been an assistant pastor at Maternity of the BVM in Wilkes Barre which means that Maternity was the parish to which the family belonged. Maternity BVM is one of the parishes which has merged to form a new parish, Our Lady of Hope. The parish has a website https://ourladyofhope.us/ which includes a history of Maternity and the contact info for Our Lady of Hope. An advantage of using Church records in research is the lack of a language barrier since both the priest and the parishioners were fluent in the same language, Polish. I would heartily recommend contacting the parish and requesting whatever records you would find useful. In my opinion, his birth given name was Heronim, which is the Polish version of Jerome. I have a relative whose name was Heronim but he used the English name Harry. It was not uncommon for immigrants and their children to use an English name which began with the same sound or letter as their Polish birth name. When you do begin to research in Europe it would be good to keep that in mind. The same goes for Camille. Kamila is the proper Polish spelling of her given name. Wishing you a happy & fruitful search. Dave P. S. Family Search has Herman’s 1950 Census return. Any additional research help would be greatly appreciated! |
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:06 am
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| Dklepas wrote: |
| Dnowicki,
Thank you! I had never seen that draft registration card or marriage certificate. It’s amazing people like you willing to help. How did you find that draft registration card through family search? Any search tips. I’ve searched his name and info for months randomly and hadn’t found it. Any research tips you can pass along I’d appreciate Also any suggestions on a website to start a Europe search? Thanks again! |
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:37 am
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Hi, Geneteka is a great resource. Here is a link to the marriage of Kamila’s parents: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=S&w=10pl&rid=S&search_lastname=adamski&search_name=jan&search_lastname2=Dudzinska&search_name2=konstancja&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable= And here is a link to the birth of Kamila and some of her siblings https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=10pl&rid=B&search_lastname=adamski&search_name=jan&search_lastname2=Dudzinska&search_name2=konstancja&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable= The ecclesiastical marriage record Trish found for you is in Latin—easy to read and understand. A hint for the records in Poland—Both Heronim & Kamila were from what was Russian ruled Poland. The records from the links above are in Russian, which employs the Cyrillic Alphabet. I found the WWII registration by using the spelling Klepacki, which is the same spelling found in the marriage record. It may have been the original spelling of the surname in Europe. The 1942 WWII Registration is commonly called “The Old Men’s Registration. This should get you started. Good luck. Dave Nowicki |
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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 12:15 pm
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| Trish wrote: |
| Hi Everyone,
Attached is the ship's manifest for Kamila. Kamila is on line 22. Can someone please verify the information on the second page? Does it say that Kamila is going to her "cousin" Heronim Klepacki or is that Ziepacki? Thanks, Trish |
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:39 pm
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Hi Trish, Looking at other capital "K" names, such as Line 9 Konstantia, Line 14 Katarzina [sic] and the K in Kamila itself, I would take the cousin's surname to be Klepacki. Good find! Sophia |
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 11:23 pm
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Hi, Geneteka is a great resource. Here is a link to the marriage of Kamila’s parents: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=S&w=10pl&rid=S&search_lastname=adamski&search_name=jan&search_lastname2=Dudzinska&search_name2=konstancja&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable= And here is a link to the birth of Kamila and some of her siblings https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=pol&bdm=B&w=10pl&rid=B&search_lastname=adamski&search_name=jan&search_lastname2=Dudzinska&search_name2=konstancja&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable= The ecclesiastical marriage record Trish found for you is in Latin—easy to read and understand. A hint for the records in Poland—Both Heronim & Kamila were from what was Russian ruled Poland. The records from the links above are in Russian, which employs the Cyrillic Alphabet. I found the WWII registration by using the spelling Klepacki, which is the same spelling found in the marriage record. It may have been the original spelling of the surname in Europe. The 1942 WWII Registration is commonly called “The Old Men’s Registration. This should get you started. Good luck. Dave Nowicki |
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:54 am
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The name Klepaski we assumed was a translation Mia understanding or spelling after the fact change so Klepacki makes sense. |
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 2:13 pm
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Just confirming my understanding that Konstancja’s parents were then Maciej (dad), Urszula Chilińska (mom) Again Apolgies. Using translations to understand but believe I do now! Thanks again! |
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