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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 12:22 pm
Post subject: Huta Stara: Village burned during WWII
I am looking for information on my ancestral village Huta Stara. There are several villages in Poland with that name, and this one was located in the region of Podkarpackie, east of Cieszanów,and near Lubaczow and Brusno Stare. I know that Huta stara no longer exists, having been burned to the ground. I have been told that this was done by the UPA (Ukrainian Insurgent Army). My relatives who lived there were ethnic Ukrainians. I am in contact with a descendant of another HS resident whose family was also Ukrainian. Not knowing much of anything about WWII, I am wondering why the UPA would have destroyed a Ukrainian village. Can anyone please answer this or direct me to a source of information(in English). Thank You!!
Elaine
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:10 am
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Hello Elaine
UPA was attacking Poles and Ukrainians that were helping Poles. I was looking for more information, but couldnt find specifically about history of Huta Stara. There is Huta Stara just near Huta-Złomy and Złomy-Ruskie. Is that place you look for? On the Attached map HUta Stara has quite big title, but has not number of houses, which is strange, i dont recognize if thats village or name for the group of small villages. here is link to the map http://igrek.amzp.pl/details.php?id=4641
I believe Huta Stara was destroyed at same time with Huta-złomy. If UPA attacked this village, this means most of people living there were Poles. IN 1836 The greek-catholic church was built, renovated in 1923. I believe that those poles were greekcatholics, their faith didnt help avoid attack. Dont know what would be the cause if attack in this particular case. Probably just usual terror. Usually, in the villages both poles and ukrainians were living as neighbours, the percentage would vary.
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efc3011
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 1:25 pm
Post subject: Huta Stara: Village burned during WWII
Hello Sirdan,
Thank you for the reply! Yes, the Huta Stara in question is the one near Huta Zlomy. I am beginning to question whether the UPA were the ones who attacked HS, because, as you said, the UPA would have most likely burned a Polish village. And all indications suggest that HS was Ukrainian. In addition to my family and the family of another HS resident being Ukrainian, I have information from a gentleman whose family were 200 year residents of nearby Lukawica, and he reported, too, that HS was a Ukrainian village.
Thanks for your interest!
Elaine
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 4:56 pm
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This is interesting. Why would UPA attack ukrainians? Only fo helping poles.
I have limited information about Huta Stara near Złomy, this is what i got on internet, maybe more would be found in books in some dusty shelves in library.
Before WWI HS definitely had Roman catholic habitants http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_III/235 here is what Słownik Geograficzny says: Huta Stara with Złomy 39 people of rom-cath faith, belong to parish Płazy. Greek-catholics belong to Brusno nowe parish (quantity not given).
Where do you get burning to the ground info? There may have been ukrainian majority in the village, but polish people were living too, there are some polish thombs in old cementery. It look s like there is also monument in memory of attacked polish people by upa link here https://books.google.pl/books?id=Y9JZycruU0wC&pg=PA294&lpg=PA294&dq=huta-z%C5%82omy+upa&source=bl&ots=dHIi19HFsk&sig=Akj0930HWdaOkA9riSFXcoS306o&hl=pl&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjOqKyMs4jQAhVJ_iwKHeLDBVA4ChDoAQghMAE#v=onepage&q=huta-z%C5%82omy%20upa&f=false
I found info, Huta-Złomy was destroyed completely by UPA. Also there is another Huta Stara village in Monasterzyska Parish, Buczacz decanate. And this one also was destroyed to the ground. What if some info was misinterpreted?
Unfortunately there is no more info About UPA attacks in HS. Well, there is only one solid one around net, that around 21 of may 1944 UPA killed one polishman in Huta Stara. BUt.. There must have been another heavy attack because author of publication in previous link says polish people were pacified. I neither know the appearnce nor the any description of thre monument in the memory of attacked poles, what it is in memory of pacified people from Złomy?
Thats what i got all over the internet, taking into consideration of what descendants of ukrainian habitants says, i believe there were not many polish in the village during WWII, but they were.
Maybe more info from the Henryk's link? Its #7 of "Na Rubiezy" magazine, on page 14.
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Edit. Some other ideas. After the WWII przysiólek Zagrody become today Złomy Polskie, and leftovers after Złomy (przysiółek of old Huta Stara) become today Złomy Ruskie. Today Huta Stara in just two buildings so lets assume nobody lives there.
Soo.. question rises, why would ukrainian village disappear? I deduct that - If pre WWII HS was ukrainian village, then it was just removed during post war mass remigration to USSR and later Operation Wisła. And what was really distroyed by UPA was old Złomy przysiółek. Its nowhere written directly, just a thought. What you think?
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efc3011
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Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:35 pm
Post subject: Huta Stara: Village burned during WWII
Sirdan,
Thanks for your efforts on my behalf. I am hampered by the fact that I don't read Polish and using Google Translator doesn't always help. So I had trouble with the links.
I don't remember where I first got the information that Huta Stara was burned to the ground. I guess that idea stuck in my mind when a group of kindly Poles toured that area in search of evidence of my family and reported that, as you said, only 2 houses remained, and neither of those residents had ties to the village before WWII. (They did find a tombstone of my 3rd great grandfather Elias Ilko Mamczur!) So the burning of HS was reinforced, since the village is gone. A book published by Gmina Narol states that Huta Zlomy was a hamet, part of the larger village Huta Stara.It also states that Huta Zlomy was almost completely destroyed "during fights with the Ukrainian Insurgent Army". Yet Huta Zlomy still exists (in two parts, Złomy Ruskie and Złomy Polskie). It doesn't mention what happened to HS.
I am aware of the Huta Stara,Monasterzyska, Buchach district, Ternopil. And yes, I read that it was burned. So this could have added to my confusion.
You are right about the relocation of residents to Ukraine. Yet, why would the houses, barns, fences, etc be totally gone? HS was a fairly large village, best I can tell: http://www.skany.przemysl.ap.gov.pl/show.php?zesp=126&cd=0&ser=0&syg=588M
Thank you for your help,
Elaine
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