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carolt71



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Post Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:52 am      Post subject: maliszewski and chmielewski and trentowski
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Is it possible that I could find the origin of the surnames listed above? There's very prominent in my research. Thank you in advance for your help! Carol
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 8:13 am      Post subject:
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Hello again Carol,


Chmielewski, Chmieleński, Chmiel-; from Polish chmiel- „hops”.

Chmielewski is a popular surname in Poland. In 2002 there were 34 426 individuals using the surname Chmielewski (Chmielewska for women) living in Poland. Detailed map of the surname distribution can be found here: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Chmielewski .

But there are only 13 individuals bearing Chmieleński surname, click here for maps : https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Chmiele%C5%84ski .


Back in 1697 there was one noble family Chmieleński in Ciechanów region.

There were also two noble Chmielewski families:
Chmielewski coat of arms Ogończyk in Czersk area (years 1413-1564),
Chmielewski coat of arms Wieniawa in Poznan region (year 1659).


Listen how your the surnames are pronounced in Polish (speakers turned on): http://say.expressivo.com/zzttqtge and http://say.expressivo.com/Ksu2vKAT .

Click here http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=chmielewski , http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=chmielewska , http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=chmiele%C5%84ski and here: http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=chmiele%C5%84ska to check what can be found about your surnames in Polish Genealogy Databases.

And here you will find other PolishOrigins members interested in Chmielewski surname: http://polishorigins.com/surnames/search/string/chmielewski .



Maliszewski, Mal-, Mał-; from Polish mały - „small”. Also from an old Polish given name Małomir . Also very common in toponyms.

In 2002 there were 10 597 individuals using the surname Maliszewski (Maliszewska for women) living in Poland. Detailed map of the surname distribution can be found here : https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Maliszewski .


In 1608 there was one Maliszewski noble family, coat of arms Godzięba, living in Dobrzyń area.

Listen how your surname is pronounced in Polish (speakers turned on) man: http://say.expressivo.com/jacek/maliszewski , woman: http://say.expressivo.com/ewa/maliszewska .

Click here http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=maliszewski and http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=maliszewska to check what can be found about your surname in Polish Genealogy Databases.

And here you will find other PolishOrigins members interested in Maliszewski surname: http://polishorigins.com/surnames/search/string/maliszewski .



Trentowski, Trent-; from old Polish tręda - „male bee, drone”, also may be from trąd „leprosy”. Trentowski (or Trętowski) may also derive from trętować, tratować - "to trample, tread down". Also may be toponym from the name of a town, e.g. Trętów.

In 2002 there were 122 individuals using the surname Trentowski (Trentowska) and 318 bearing the surname Trętowski (Trętowska) living in Poland. Detailed maps of the surname distribution can be found here: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Trentowski , https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Tr%C4%99towski .


In 1697 there was one noble family Trentowski (also recorded as Trętowski) i from Trętow (Ciechanow region)

Listen how your surname is pronounced in Polish (speakers turned on): Trentowski http://say.expressivo.com/D6JhQ1HF , Trętowski http://say.expressivo.com/ewa/trętowski .

Click here: http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=trentowski and here: http://polishorigins.com/databases/index?s=tr%C4%99towski to check what can be found about your surname in Polish Genealogy Databases.



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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:24 am      Post subject: Tretowski
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Hello, I live in the U.S., and am would LOVE to learn about my ancestry. My grandmother, Antonina Treowski, was from Warsaw area & came to the states when she was 17. (Her parents sold a cow to do so!) She raised a wonderful, large family outside Chicago, lost a son in WW11, and experienced lots of immigrant hardships. When she was 76, my aunt Josephine took her back to Poland for the first time in her life—there were lots of family/friend parties to celebrate, etc. Then, the night before she was to come back to America, she died in the house she was born in.
She was born July 25, 1890
Birthplace: Wyszkow, Wyszków County, Masovian Voivodeship, Poland
I have some photos to share, if interested.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46528391/antonine-parsanko-aged-71-tretowski/
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:58 pm      Post subject: Re: Tretowski
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Kathyjo wrote:
Hello, I live in the U.S., and am would LOVE to learn about my ancestry. My grandmother, Antonina Treowski, was from Warsaw area & came to the states when she was 17. (Her parents sold a cow to do so!) She raised a wonderful, large family outside Chicago, lost a son in WW11, and experienced lots of immigrant hardships. When she was 76, my aunt Josephine took her back to Poland for the first time in her life—there were lots of family/friend parties to celebrate, etc. Then, the night before she was to come back to America, she died in the house she was born in.
She was born July 25, 1890
Birthplace: Wyszkow, Wyszków County, Masovian Voivodeship, Poland
I have some photos to share, if interested.
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/46528391/antonine-parsanko-aged-71-tretowski/


Do You know the names of Antonia's parents?
i have checked the romancatholic parish of Wyszków and there was no baptism record for Antonina Tretowska in the year of 1890.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:09 pm      Post subject:
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Oh my goodness! My cousin said everyone spelled the name wrong. No N.

Last name is spelled Tretowski —Antonina. Born July25, 1890, in Wyszkow. (Or Pultusk?)

I can’t thank you enough for checking! It means so much to me. I don’t know her parents’ names.

My grandfather considered himself Polish, too. I think he may have lived in Lithuania? Or Ukraine? Used to be Poland. His family was all killed by the Russian Czar after he came to America.

His name:Felix Porcianko
Born 1886 in Swierki, Poland
His parents: Adam Porcianko and Eva Janokowicz Porcianko
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:38 pm      Post subject:
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Kathyjo wrote:
Oh my goodness! My cousin said everyone spelled the name wrong. No N.

Last name is spelled Tretowski —Antonina. Born July25, 1890, in Wyszkow. (Or Pultusk?)

I can’t thank you enough for checking! It means so much to me. I don’t know her parents’ names.

My grandfather considered himself Polish, too. I think he may have lived in Lithuania? Or Ukraine? Used to be Poland. His family was all killed by the Russian Czar after he came to America.

His name:Felix Porcianko
Born 1886 in Swierki, Poland
His parents: Adam Porcianko and Eva Janokowicz Porcianko


Was Antonina romancatholic?
I have also checked pułtusk baptism records for the year of 1890 and there was no such baptism.
Tretowska was her maiden name?

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:46 pm      Post subject: Tretowski
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Yes, she was definitely Catholic. Tretowski was her name. (I guess Tretowska in Poland?)

Hmmm...I know she came from that area. Thank you so much for checking.
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:19 pm      Post subject:
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Hi Kathy,

What documents do you have for Antonina Tretowska from the USA? Do you have her passenger list? Marriage record? Census records? You must find these records first before searching in Poland. Often, these documents provide more specific information that will tell us where to look in Poland and what years to consider.

For example, I found a 1920 and 1930 census that shows she immigrated in 1914. I then searched the immigration databases. I think I found her Hamburg and New York passenger lists. These documents give her birth year as 1894 and her last residence as Obryte. It says she was traveling to her Cousin Jozefa (Josephine) In Illinois. Do you have these documents?

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:32 pm      Post subject: Re: Tretowski
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Kathyjo wrote:
Yes, she was definitely Catholic. Tretowski was her name. (I guess Tretowska in Poland?)

Hmmm...I know she came from that area. Thank you so much for checking.


I have found her baptism record.

Nr 139
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It happened in the village of Obryte, on October 16th/28th 1894, at 2 p.m.
Appeared personally Antoni Trętowski, morgownik*, living in Rząśnik, 27 years old, in the presence of Antoni Palasek, 30 years old and Adam Pajka, 30 years old, farmers, living in Rząśnik, and presented us a female infant child, informing that the child was born in Rząśnik on October 15th/27th of the current year, at 3 p.m., of his legal wife Marianna nee Pajka, 27 years old.
At The Holy Baptism, held today, by the vicar priest Bolesław Turczynowicz, the child was given the name: Aleksandra, and the godparents were: Antoni Palasek and Józefa Trętowska.
This act was read to the declarant and the witnesses, all illiterate and was signed by Us.

Administrator of the Obryte parish, serving as Civil Registrar, priest Antoni Rydlicki.


*morgownik: peasant who owns a small land area.



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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:34 pm      Post subject: Baptism
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WOW! I can't read Polish. Will you please tell me the year and place? Does it have her parents' names? This entire page is handwritten about her baptism?!!!! Thank you!!!!!
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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:40 pm      Post subject: Re: Baptism
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Kathyjo wrote:
WOW! I can't read Polish. Will you please tell me the year and place? Does it have her parents' names? This entire page is handwritten about her baptism?!!!! Thank you!!!!!


It is written in russian:

Nr 139
Rząśnik

It happened in the village of Obryte, on October 16th/28th 1894, at 2 p.m.
Appeared personally Antoni Trętowski, morgownik*, living in Rząśnik, 27 years old, in the presence of Antoni Palasek, 30 years old and Adam Pajka, 30 years old, farmers, living in Rząśnik, and presented us a female infant child, informing that the child was born in Rząśnik on October 15th/27th of the current year, at 3 p.m., of his legal wife Marianna nee Pajka, 27 years old.
At The Holy Baptism, held today, by the vicar priest Bolesław Turczynowicz, the child was given the name: Aleksandra, and the godparents were: Antoni Palasek and Józefa Trętowska.
This act was read to the declarant and the witnesses, all illiterate and was signed by Us.

Administrator of the Obryte parish, serving as Civil Registrar, priest Antoni Rydlicki.


*morgownik: peasant who owns a small land area.

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:50 pm      Post subject:
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And here are the census documents and passenger lists that provided her year of birth (1894) and last residence (Obryte) and fathers name Antoni. On the 2 page New York passenger list she is line 1.


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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:04 pm      Post subject:
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Here is another interesting document for her death in case you don’t have it.
Looks like it provides the name and address of relatives in Poland....

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Post Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 4:21 pm      Post subject: Re: Baptism
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Kathyjo wrote:
WOW! I can't read Polish. Will you please tell me the year and place? Does it have her parents' names? This entire page is handwritten about her baptism?!!!! Thank you!!!!!


Hi Kathyjo,

Attached are screenshots of birth and marriage listings on Geneteka for siblings and other relatives of Antonina. Some records, but not all, have scans online. The marriages of two sets of her grandparents took place in 1855 & 1865 respectively. There are no links to scans since they were only indexed from internal indices in the appropriate registers.

Here is a link to the marriage record of her parents Antoni Tretowski & Marianna Pajka:
https://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.php?ar=6&zs=0142d&sy=1891&kt=2&plik=28-29.jpg#zoom=1&x=514&y=1207

Wishing you successful researching,

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Thank you! I'm astounded to have received all this information, and so appreciative.

I see many different names on here. Who is responding? People all with polish origins.com? Or readers on the forum? This is amazing. She must have fulfilled her lifelong wish, and died full of love:

In case you didn't see my first post earlier today, here's some background, which I've always found fascinating: My grandmother, Antonina, was from Warsaw area & came to the states when she was 17. (Her parents sold a cow to do so!) She raised a wonderful, large family outside Chicago, lost a son in WW11, and experienced lots of immigrant hardships. When she was 76, my aunt Josephine took her back to Poland for the first time in her life—there were lots of family/friend parties to celebrate, etc. Then, the night before she was to come back to America, she died in the house she was born in.
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