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JoelKosciak

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: Town Location Help ... Ronczyna, Roczyny...?

Hello,

Need some help deciphering here. ... Many documents I see that my great grandfather came from Ronczyna (see this the most) or Rocazyna ... then the picture below says something a bit different ...

Smile

~ Joel

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:37 am Post subject:

Joel, Roczyna is near Krakow (sw). Pronounced row-cheen-a. I think the draftboard man tried his best to interpret it but failed miserably. (Roczyny is a village in the administrative district of Gmina Andrychów, within Wadowice County, Lesser Poland Voivodeship, in southern Poland. It lies approximately 3 kilometres (2 mi) south-west of Andrychów, 14 km (9 mi) west of Wadowice, and 51 km (32 mi) south-west of the regional capital Kraków. The village has a population of 3,728. (This town would be in old Galicia)

JoelKosciak

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:47 am Post subject:

Thanks, and its near Krakow? That's where my great grandmother, his wife, was born. Smile

Now I need to figure out how to see if I can find old documents from Poland. ... I think it'd be easier to hire somebody. lol

~ Joel

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:02 am Post subject:

I made a small map for you.

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JoelKosciak

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Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:07 am Post subject:

Any help is appreciated. Thanks! Smile

JoelKosciak

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:45 am Post subject:

I just want to make sure you are sure. Smile

The place you had on the map I found to be also said as "Roczyny", which is in southwest Poland ... But I found a place called "Raczyna" that is in southeast Poland. Is Raczyna not in Galicia?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:59 am Post subject:

OH! ... How about Maryanskie-Chori, Poland ? ... I can't find it. It was my great grandmother's last foreign residence.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:06 pm Post subject:

Can you scan this towns name from the actual document? It just doesn't look right to me.

JoelKosciak

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject:

Sure, here it is ...

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:06 pm Post subject:

JoelKosciak wrote:

I just want to make sure you are sure. Smile

The place you had on the map I found to be also said as "Roczyny", which is in southwest Poland ... But I found a place called "Raczyna" that is in southeast Poland. Is Raczyna not in Galicia?

My location is within 35 miles of SE of Krakow. This is in SE Poland, however it was in Galicia until 1918. Do you need some help with some maps/history to understand it better?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:13 pm Post subject:

JoelKosciak wrote:

Sure, here it is ...

I hate these- the clerk of the court sometimes makes up what they think is the correct spelling of the Polish town. (Many immigrants could not read or write so they could not assist with the spelling) Do you have any idea of the location? Would it be near the area of the other towns you named? All I can do is guess at a town nearby that might sound like this.

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject:

Well my great grandmother was born in Krakow ... and she married my great grandfather who was from Roczyny. ... So maybe somewhere in between or around?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:45 pm Post subject:

Andrychów is 2 miles from Roczyny- what do you think? Could it be Andry-chów instead of Maryanski-chori?

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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject:

Hmmm ... Not sure ... Do they sound close to you when they are said? I'm not good with pronouncing polish cities/towns. Heck, sometimes I wonder if I am saying my last name right! lol