Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:03 pm
Post subject: Milewski
I have recently begun researching my grandparents move from Poland to the US. This was either 1907 or 1908 (Stanley) and 1910 (Mary) This is from census documents. They were in the US for the 1915 census. They had three children by then, six in all. Because all the children are now gone and the grand kids know nothing about their past, it is very challenging. All I know is that they were married before they came over, Stanley was from Narzburg(?) Polands and Mary was once referred to as Austrian-Polish. I have access to Ancestry.com, but would appreciate any help. Stanley and Mary Milewski (I was named after my grandmother
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 3:47 pm
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Mary...welcome to a fascinating journey!
I've found that the reported immigration dates for my ancestors was rarely correct in the census records I found. While the dates are often close, some of the dates were actually five years different than the true dates. I recommend you check the Ellis Island database. All immigrant records for the years your ancestors arrived, along with images of the actual ship manifests are available for free online at http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passSearch.asp.
You mentioned a "1915 census". I assume that was a state census, rather than the Federal census (which only happened on the decade...1910, 1920, etc).
Also, if you have the approximate date of birth of the children, and know where they were living at the time, you might be able to obtain baptismal records from the nearest Catholic parish offices. Most parish offices in the US are pretty helpful when it comes to those kind of records.
Good luck!
Richard
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Milewski
| Mary milewski wrote: | | I have recently begun researching my grandparents move from Poland to the US. This was either 1907 or 1908 (Stanley) and 1910 (Mary) This is from census documents. They were in the US for the 1915 census. They had three children by then, six in all. Because all the children are now gone and the grand kids know nothing about their past, it is very challenging. All I know is that they were married before they came over, Stanley was from Narzburg(?) Polands and Mary was once referred to as Austrian-Polish. I have access to Ancestry.com, but would appreciate any help. Stanley and Mary Milewski (I was named after my grandmother |
Mary,
A Stanislaw Milewski (45) and his wife Marya (40) arrived at Ellis Island on October 29, 1912.
They departured from Bremen on October 22, on ship Kronprinzess Cecilie. He declared he had been before in the US. Both declared their last residence and place of birth as Rudna Mala, then Galicia. They were going to meet Franciszek and Wojciech Hbadys (?) in Lowell, MA, at 36 Davidson street.
He arrived on May 30, 1907. From Bremen. Kaiser Wilhelm d. Gross ? Same addresses and relatives mentioned as above.
Gilberto
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 4:25 pm
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Gilberto,
That seems rather old, since my youngest aunt was born in 1920. I'll look into Ellis island documents more again. Thank you, for your interest. Since the first child was born in 1910', I haven't looked prior to that year.
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:15 pm
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Mary,
Where do you read 'Narzburg' as his birthplace?
Just in case it is the Stanley above mentioned, I have found his birth record.
Gilberto
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 5:45 pm
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In a naturalization index from 1932. It actually says Narburg. I messed up the spelling in my head. I had a stroke three years ago and my memory is very poor. Fortunately Milewski is not a common name in RI.
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:40 pm
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Ok. Found. Arrived on Jan 30,1905. Ellis Island. Ship Brandenburg, from Bremen, on Jan 17.
19 years old, married, traveling alone. Last residence Nadbori (actually Nadbory). Going to Providence RI to meet his father Fr(anciszek) Chrastoscky, living at 15 (cannot read the name of the street).
Three Nadbory in Poland:
Nadbory
128 osób
woj. podlaskie
pow. łomżyński
gmina Jedwabne
Tyszki-Nadbory
126 osób
woj. mazowieckie
pow. ostrołęcki
gmina Czerwin
Dzierzęga-Nadbory
67 osób
woj. mazowieckie
pow. przasnyski
Gilberto
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:51 am
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Mary,
That Franz Chrastoscky (actually Chrostowski) arrived at Ellis Island on March 29, 1902.
Departured from Hamburg on March 16, ship Patricia.
Last residence listed as Obrisky (actullly Obrytki). He was 25 and going to meet his brother Jozef.
That Leopold Chrostowski, mentioned as a witness on his Nat Papers, was from Brodowo.
He arrrived at Ellis Ilsland on March 4, 1907.
The map attached show these locations close to each other: Nadbory, Brodowo and Obrytki.
In Geneteka there are some marriages between Chrostowski and Milewska, in Burzyn, a village located just 3 miles south of Nadbory. There was no RC church in Nadbory, the parish was in Burzyn. This area is plenty of Chrostowski and Milewski. Birth records for Burzyn are kept at
the Archiwum Panstwowe w Bialymstoku (Lomza branch) but it covers only from 1889 on. You would have to write them to know which Archive holds earlier birth records.
http://www.bialystok.ap.gov.pl/english/index.html
Gilberto
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:32 am
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I'm not understanding. How did he go from being "Milewski" to Crostowski. I see the Nadbury connection all right.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:42 pm
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Never mind I understand. I should never read email before 9 a.m.!
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:38 am
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I have discovered something of interest. My grandparents were married in the US. I found a source for their marriage in 1909! Mary is listed as Brykowisc. I found a listing for her passage in 1907. She arrived with her father. There are no other listings for her father, Antoni, so I imagine he was refused entrance (?) The name Brykowisc is not very common, so I can be pretty sure about this. Now Stanley is another matter....
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:19 pm
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Mary,
I think that if Antoni wasn't admitted to the U.S., there would have been some notation on his passenger record. He could have gone back to Poland, but his name could have been spelled incorrectly on census records. I saw that he and Mary/Maria came through Ellis Island, with the spelling of their last name Brykowicz. At Family Search I saw an Antone Brekovitz in the 1910 census in Providence, RI, do you think this could be Mary's family? His wife's name was Mary/Maria, and I know that was Mary's mother's name according to her marriage record. The age of the Antone in the census, and the Antoni on the ship are only different by a few years, and that is common when many of us find records of our ancestors...
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 5:06 pm
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I don't find any record on Antoni, but your info seems logical since Bercowitz was the name settled on my grandmother. I'd like to find other corroborating evidence, since this would seem to indicate that my great grandparents were in the US too. My head is swimming! Who knew that it would be so confusing?
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2014 9:37 pm
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Mary,
Here is where I saw the Antone Brekovitz family in 1910:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MP6R-QMS
To see the original document, you could click Explore viewing options, and since you said you had a subscription to Ancestry, you could click on that to see the census form. Even though he's indexed as Antone, I think it looks like Antoni. One thing that matches with this Antoni is that the census form has 1907 as the year he immigrated.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 1:01 pm
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I found the listing for Antoni. I found other citations as well. I'm waiting to hear back from the Polish church in Providence. Something there might answer some questions. The church was est. in 1905. But the priest I emailed thought they had all their records still. I wish I could go and look myself!
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