ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:24 pm
Post subject: Dzial near Czarny Dunajec in Malopolskie
If you are from Dział, or have ancestors from this village, please leave a comment or begin a discussion here.
Dział is a lovely village in south Poland, in the administrative district of Gmina Czarny Dunajec, in the county of Nowy Targ County, Lesser Poland Voivodeship.
Hear it spoken in Polish: http://www.ivona.com/us/?tk=MakY7IFRN6
Some surnames associated with the village:
Antolek, Bachlada, Biclanski, Bełczyk, Blachnta, Blahlopiek, Blahuta, Błażek Bobek Bunyn, Burdyn, Burmistrz, Cienkno, Cienkus, Czialea, Dlugopolski, Dzelsky, Dziaba, Dzialea, Dzieliki, Dzielska, Dzielski, Dzielsky, Dzilski, Dzilsky, Fiedor, Figura, Habas, Handowski, Horowitz, Hraca, Jachymiak, Jarkowski, Jasiew, Jaskon, Jaśków, Kaczor, Kij, Kluska, Kociela, Konuenska, Krzystyniak, Kulak, Kumperda, Komperda, Kwak, Landowska, Landowski, Lasiek, Leszerarczyk, Lisarzcyk, Maschko, Masnika, Michalczówka, Michalczowski, Mrozek, Mucha, Myrda, Nachmann, Palka, Paluch, Patka, Peka, Peksa, Pestaczek, Planta, Pokora, Raca, Rubioz, Rubisz, Sproch, Sukowski, Szczotka Tadajewska, Telka, Truchan, Truchon, Wagner, Wetke, Wrona, Wrzaszczak, Zajac, Zaramba, Zaskniski, Zoltek
These are just some of the surname associated with Dzial. Most are from Ellis Island records and may not be spelled properly, but I have included them in case your ancestor adopted an alternative spelling of their surname.
Other names came from the book:
Zapomniane Podhale : czterysta lat wsi - Dział, Odrowąż, Pieniążkowice, Załuczne (Forgotten Podhale: four hundred years of Dział, Odrowąż, Pieniążkowice, Załuczne villages) by Krzysztof Szymusiak-Nowakowski.
The book is available to view for free at the Malopolska Digital Library. You can read another thread about this book here: http://forum..polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=241
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 3:49 pm
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In the book Zapomniane Podhale : czterysta lat wsi - Dział, Odrowąż, Pieniążkowice, Załuczne (Forgotten Podhale: four hundred years of the villages Dział, Odrowąż, Pieniążkowice, Załuczne), author Krzysztof Szymusiak-Nowakowski listed the names of the families living in Dzial in the 1600's [page 28].
1. Sołtys Dzielski
2. Bobek
3. Szczotka
4. Lasiek
5. Błażek
6. Michalczowski
7. Bełczyk
8. Wrona
The source of his information:
L. Wyrostek „Dokument chłopów podhalańskich z r. 1605„ Studia historyczne ku czci S. Kutrzeby, t. I. str.493-496
[Google translation: L. Wyrostek "Document peasants Podhale in 1605" Historical Studies in honor of S. Kutrzeby, Volume I. str.493-496]
Photo: the church at Dzial:
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Marmia
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Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:20 pm
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Although John Dzielski, who is a member here as well as I, we can't seem locate our living Dzielski's in Dzial. My maternal grandmother Anna Bienias was from Krauszow, which is very close to Dzial. She married Antony Truchon, I believe in Krauszow where they met and lived before coming to America in the very early 1900's. I would like to know, if there might be a corresponding contact, whether by email or Postal mail, that I can find in the areas of Dzial or Krauszow? Thank you very much, if you can help us on our journey.
Sincerely,
Mark Miarka
Researching Miarka, Bien, Dzielski, Bienias and Truchon in Poland
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:24 am
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Mark,
I found in our databases 16 Dzielskis living currently in Dział and 3 Bienias living in Krauszów If you want I will send you phone numbers to these people.
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Marmia
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Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:38 pm
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Zenon,
I wish to thank you very much as my Dzielski's were very hard to find. I have found one young Dzielski online thru MySpace.com, but unable to contact him because MySpace says he has to contact me. I am thinking that he may have a computer for his MySpace, so this is a great way of communicating with family. Please send the phone numbers as this will help me in getting information on my Paternal and Maternal grandparents and maybe further back. I did send a letter of request to the churches several years ago, but never recieved any information. Is there a Church name address for both that I may Postal mail my questions for birth, marriage and death certificates?
Best wishes,
Mark Miarka
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:24 pm
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Hi Mark,
You should find the phone numbers in your private messages inbox.
Marmia wrote: | Is there a Church name address for both that I may Postal mail my questions for birth, marriage and death certificates? |
The parish church for Dział in 19th century was Odrowąż. I don't want to discourage you but from my and Shellie's last year experience chances that you will ever receive any reply are rather small...
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Marmia
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:40 pm
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Zenon,
Thank you very much for this information. My Polish language writing is weak but my Heart is with Poland. I use Google translator for any correspondence with emails from Poland.
Mark
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:52 pm
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Mark,
I am not telling about language barrier in correspondence but rather about willingness to reply to such requests, not only in Odrowąż parish.
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:58 pm
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When we looked at the church books at Odrowąż the record books that we accessed were limited to Odrowąż only. So it seems that separate books were kept for each village within the Odrowąż parish. Zenon, you stepped into the office where the books were kept. Did you notice if other village books were on the shelves? Perhaps the Odrowąż parish handed over the records to the Dział church.............. We can only hope so!
Are there any members here that have gone to Dzial, or have family there now? Perhaps they can give us some info about the priest at Dzial.
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:28 am
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Shellie wrote: | When we looked at the church books at Odrowąż the record books that we accessed were limited to Odrowąż only. So it seems that separate books were kept for each village within the Odrowąż parish. |
That's right Shellie, often there were separate books for each or for a view neighboring villages in the same parish.
Shellie wrote: | Zenon, you stepped into the office where the books were kept. Did you notice if other village books were on the shelves? |
I was fully concentrated on talk with the priest at that moment and I didn't notice if there were any other books for other villages
Shellie wrote: | Perhaps the Odrowąż parish handed over the records to the Dział church.............. We can only hope so! |
It is possible. Often books from the old parishes which used to included the new parish villages are transferred to the new parish. Here is the link to established in 1994 Pieniążkowice-Dział parish : http://www.diecezja.pl/pl/parafie/600-pienikowice-dzia-parafia-mb-bolesnej .
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Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:15 am
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I just wanted to drop a note to thank you for sharing this bit of information about Dzial. I believe my great grandfather is from this town from his Ellis Island records, so it was quite nice to see a photo and a little bit of information about the town. I've looked through the book you found a little bit as well, and it's very intriguing as well. Thanks again for sharing all this great information.
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 3:50 pm
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Thanks Zenon. It's certainly on the "bucket" list.
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:38 pm
Post subject: family from Dzial
My grandmother is from Dzial - Maria Sikora. She married Bienas from Drugopole and they had my father Ludwik Bienas. In order for him to come to the Utnited States , his aunt adopted him (from Indiana - her name was Anna Konat). Does anyone have information about the Bienas family??
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:18 pm
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Hi Tammy,
I don't have any info about Bienas from Dzial or Dlugopole, but I do have 3 Bienas' from Odrowaz, a village very close by. I've attached an image. What happened to Ludwik's parents? Did they stay in Poland?
Have you connected with the other members here with Bienas ancestors?
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