Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:37 pm
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Melinda,
This is interesting news about Adam Jaz, how wonderful for you and your family.
I don't know that you can read the book (or Adam's chapter in it) online. Someone else would have to comment on that. I did find it at nine libraries in the U.S. see: http://www.worldcat.org/title/lwowskie-pod-okupacja-sowiecka-1939-1941/oclc/494325569 You may be able to borrow it through inter library loan. Of course it is written in Polish.
Cheri
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:57 am
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Two entries from genealogyindexer:
One is from adress book, link unavailable
Other one is from school report 1920/1921 Gimnazjum im Szajnochy in Lviv , 1a class, link http://genealogyindexer.org/frame/s98/10/d
At that time he was, hardly saying, about 12-14 years old.
Are you able to borrow book Lwowskie pod okupacją sowiecką?
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:21 pm
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Thank you to you both - Sirdan and Cherly. You've been so helpful. And just the help I needed!
Sirdan, I've downloaded the school report but can't translate it because it's an image. What does it say about Dominik or Vincent? Do you know for sure he was 12-14? I have been trying to figure out date of birth (even just a year) for Dominik's siblings. So that would put Vincent's birthdate around 1902-1904? If so, he was the older brother. Can you shed some light there?
The other is an old address for Vincent? I cannot see it at all. Is there an actual address I could try sending something to?
I mailed a letter to Adam today. Still not sure if he's alive or not. Been searching, but can't find anything. Hoping the church or parish group knows.
Found this image of Adam at the Festival!
Thank you!
Melinda
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dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 6:39 pm
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Melinda,
It looks like the Easter Bunny brought you a basket full of information. I was not able to answer you question about trying to link Jozef Jaz due to holiday stuff. Of course, you would want to link him through birth/baptism and marriage documents. The home page of the Polish Archives has a database called "Pradziad". It does not contain info about specific individuals but lists the archives which hold records for the various places in Poland. There are records from Lwow which are held in an archive in Warsaw and so that could be the place you need to contact for vital records. But that could be for a time in the future. The most valuable lead now is the info you have about Adam. Contacting him or his descendants would seem to be the easiest way to determine whether your Jozef Jaz is the same Jozef as the one born in 1876 and repatriated via Krakow.
I know that right now Jozef is on the back burner, but I didn't want to ignore your question.
Best of luck,
Dave
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Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 7:25 pm
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I appreciate your response, Dave. You are correct...I am doing my best to track Adam first! Would love to know more about Jozef, but hopefully that comes straight from the mouth of a relative! Thanks again - I'm so thankful for everyone's help.
Melinda
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:24 am
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Sirdan, I'm trying to confirm that is a photo of Adam. Any help there? I cannot read the website about the festival where I found the photo (the link you sent me) and it's not translating well.
Thanks!
Melinda
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:42 am
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Please disregard that last post. I found out that it is not him. Because when I saw this photo, I wept...looks just like my grandfather.
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:22 am
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Melinda,
I don't understand. Are you saying that you found out the man with the flowers is not Adam Jaz, or that you found out the last photo is not him?
Cheri
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:24 am
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The photo of the man with the flowers is not him. The last photo, with the woman in the red jacket, is most definitely him. He looks exactly like my grandfather.
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:30 am
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Wow, that is great.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:32 am
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My parents, brother and I all wept. If that man is alive, I'll be on a plane tomorrow.
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:44 am
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Melinda, this is definitely Adam. That is what say description. On the next picture there is an Adam playing the piano, singing too http://tml.bloog.pl/gal,637934,title,II-Przeglad-Piosenki-Kresowej-Jaroslaw-2009-r,index.html
You did great find with this gallery. Amazing you see in Adam appearance your father.
I wanted to make suprise but no reason to wait. I found in my local library the book with Adam memories. Im still searching for my ancestors too. I will go to borrow something on Thursday for myself, so will borrow "Lwowskie pod okupacją sowiecką" too. I will send scans in private message to you.
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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2016 11:47 am
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Sirdan, you are my hero! I am trying to locate the book here, through the library, but they are having a hard time getting it. Most libraries do not want to send it across state borders, as there are so few. However can I thank you!?
Sirdan, how would I find an obituary for Adam? If we know what parish he was a part of, wouldn't it make sense they would have an obituary? Have not had an response from any of the emails I sent.
Thank you - so much.
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sirdanPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:37 pm
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Hello again.
I ve sent to you Melinda pm with link to the scans. The Adam Memories contains lots of info, this is great start point for genealogy research if that you would like to begin. Here is some most importatnt info:
Adam was born in 1921, he had siblings that you already know. The family lived in Lwów in house at the Ormiańska street 35, near armenian cathedral. Adam was going to music school and taking piano lessons. He mention his aunt-brother Jacek Druszkiewicz, which in fact was his cousin. Adam was forced to move to Poland after war, in 1946.
Dominik was born in 1913, he was goldsmith. He was arrested by NKWD in 1940 (he was probably active as "underground" soldier) and was prisoned in łagr. Later he became soldier of I panzer division of Gen. Anders. After the war he stayed in GB. In 1951 he moved to USA, died in 2001 in Jersey.
Wincenty was born in 5 of november 1909 in Lwów. He was railwayman. Died on 9 of january 1995 in Sucha Beskidzka
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:46 pm
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Sirdan,
I've been looking for this information so long. I don't know how you've found so much of it. Can I ask a couple questions about your email...You say Adam was forced to move to Poland in 1946? What do you mean? And what do you mean by "underground soldier?" I was confused why he would be arrested in 1940, when according to his own records, he was in a POW camp starting in 1939. Any thoughts?
Thank you thank you thank you!
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