ALAEssex
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 6:08 am
Post subject: Golubin?
Hi,
I am trying to trace my great-grandmother's birth records. I have found a record of habitation from Poznan but the information is quite indecipherable. The written location for her birth appears to be Golubin but I cannot find trace of it.....
Any assistance gratefully received.
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marcelproustPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 7:02 am
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| ALAEssex wrote: | Hi,
I am trying to trace my great-grandmother's birth records. I have found a record of habitation from Poznan but the information is quite indecipherable. The written location for her birth appears to be Golubin but I cannot find trace of it.....
Any assistance gratefully received.
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu May 22, 2025 9:22 am
Post subject: Re: Golubin?
| ALAEssex wrote: | Hi,
I am trying to trace my great-grandmother's birth records. I have found a record of habitation from Poznan but the information is quite indecipherable. The written location for her birth appears to be Golubin but I cannot find trace of it.....
Any assistance gratefully received.
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Hi ALAEssex,
I agree with you, the handwriting looks like Golubin and I cannot find this place, either. However, I looked at an online gazetteer and found some villages with similar sounding names. Ignoring those that are in East Prussia and farther afield, here are a few for you to consider:
Gollubien, Karthaus, Danzig, Westpreussen https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10591031
Gulbien, Rosenberg, Marienwerder, Westpreussen https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10681029
Glupon, Neutomischel, Posen, Posen https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10582015
As Marcel said, it would help to see the entire page. If you cannot upload such a large image, you can provide us with a link instead.
Best of luck in resolving the puzzle,
Sophia
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ALAEssex
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 7:37 am
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Hi Sophia,
Thanks for your response.. here is more information.
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 8:31 am
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| ALAEssex wrote: | Hi Sophia,
Thanks for your response.. here is more information. |
Hi ALAEssex,
Thanks for posting that image. At the moment, no bright ideas occur as to what "Golubin" is, but fear not! You have info on this card that may help. It shows that Anna Schulz married Leon Konieczny on 2. 10. 20, that is, on the second of October 1920 (1820? what time frame is this card from?). It showed the couple moved 4 days later from what looks like one street in Poznan (Dabrowskiego 35) to another street in Poznan (Wawrzenia 34) "u Szulza" which I believe indicates that they lived with Anna's parents. So if you find their marriage record in Poznan, you may get another chance to see how her town of birth was written.
There is much more info on this card but I think that the town of Anna's birth is your primary focus, right? There is a notation "see the parents' card" but it's not clear to me if that is her parents or his being referred to.
I hope that Marcel or Barb can look at this and comment as to whether I am interpreting this correctly.
Sophia
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 1:23 pm
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Hi Sophia,
I managed to find Leon's parents and siblings. It seems that Leon was born in Lipa parish Oborniki, but I can't find a place called Golubin.
ALAEssex can you give me a link to the place where you found the above-mentioned document?
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 5:58 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: | Hi Sophia,
I managed to find Leon's parents and siblings. It seems that Leon was born in Lipa parish Oborniki, but I can't find a place called Golubin.
ALAEssex can you give me a link to the place where you found the above-mentioned document?
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
According to Meyer's Gazetteer, Gollubien is today's Gołubie. The nearest Catholic church was in Stendsitz, today's Stężyca. There was a Protestant church in Stendsitz/Stężyca but also one closer to Gollubien/Gołubie was the one in Schonberg, today's Szymbark.
I realize this is some distance from Poznan and Oborniki.
ALAEssex, can you find the Schulz parents page in the list of inhabitants where you found the Konieczny family? This may be another chance for you to see how Golubin is written. If they switched over to Polish spelling, you may find them as Szulc or Szulz but I am guessing that since Anna is listed as Schulz then so will her parents be listed that way.
Best regards,
Sophia
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 6:16 am
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Sophia,
Yes, it is quite a long distance to Poznan / Oborniki.
I checked yesterday the parish of Stezyca and the Civil Registry Office in Szymbark and unfortunately I did not find Anna.
Yes, it would be nice to see the link to this page.
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 6:22 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: | Sophia,
Yes, it is quite a long distance to Poznan / Oborniki.
I checked yesterday the parish of Stezyca and the Civil Registry Office in Szymbark and unfortunately I did not find Anna.
Yes, it would be nice to see the link to this page.
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
Maybe this?
https://e-kartoteka.net/en/
Sophia
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 6:25 am
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Wow Sophia, what a great resource. Haven't seen it before!
-Barb
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dnowickiPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 8:43 am
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| Sophia wrote: | | BarbOslo wrote: | Sophia,
Yes, it is quite a long distance to Poznan / Oborniki.
I checked yesterday the parish of Stezyca and the Civil Registry Office in Szymbark and unfortunately I did not find Anna.
Yes, it would be nice to see the link to this page.
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
Maybe this?
https://e-kartoteka.net/en/
Sophia |
Sophia & Barb,
Approximately 250 miles and outside of Wielkopolskie is way to great a distance. The probable reason you can’t locate Golubin is that it most likely does not exist under that name or any variation thereof. The village was well on its way to obscurity and oblivion by the end of the 19th Century. It was definitely in the vicinity of Oborniki but was not a szlachecka village. It was so insignificant that it barely merited a few word reference in the Słownik geograficzny http://dir.icm.edu.pl/pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_I/370 The mention of Golubin is approximately ¾ from the beginning of the entry. If anyone is bound and determined to locate it on a map perhaps it may appear on the 1803 map of South Prussia by David Gilly, and then again, perhaps not, The Gilly map is not aligned to true North but I’ve found it very useful in understanding the land use as it was during the late 18th & early 19th Centuries. There is no index to the map and to locate a place it is necessary to use the Biblical method of “seek & you’ll find”.
Good luck,
Dave
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 9:16 am
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Hi all,
Click on this link for the Meyer's Gazetteer entry for "Golembin, Alt, Neu" (meaning both Old Golembin and New Golembin) and then click on the tab for "map." This is another possible location for Golubin. It is just south of Poznan.
https://www.meyersgaz.org/place/10590020
If you then click on the tab "ecclesiastical" it will show you the locations of the nearest churches.
Sophia
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2025 1:37 pm
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Excellent, Sophia!
-Barb
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