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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:43 pm
Post subject: Bielanski - Bielanska family near Czarny Dunajec
The Bielanski & Bielanska surnames are found in several villages around Czarny Dunajec. If you are researching this family name, please leave a comment or question.
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ShelliePO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:23 pm
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Many people with Bielanski and Bielanska surnames emigrated to America from Zaluczne. You can read individual records and see Ute's hard work at this thread:
http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=1107
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According to a manifest at Ellis Island, in 1914 my grandmother, Aniela Lenart, was going to her Uncle Jozef Bielanski's in Chicago, address 1811 17th St. I think this uncle must have been married to Aniela's mother's sister. Aniela's mother was Magdalena Babicz Lenart. I don't know the name of the sister that Jozef married, but I'd love to find out more.
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PolishLibrarianPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 9:25 pm
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Cheri~ I think I found your Jozef Bielanski in the 1920 Census Gives you a first name for his wife, but they married in Poland so no marriage record here in US. Did you consider that Jozef could be married to Aniela's father's sister (i.e. Bessie could be a Lenart).
1920 Census enumerated on Jan. 2, 1920
1743 – 16th St. (rear) in Chicago Ward 11 [This is only a couple of blocks from 1811 17th st.]
Joseph Bielanski 44 Renter from Galicia, came 1911, alien, laborer – coal yard
Bessie wife 35 came 1911, alien
John son 15 came 1911, alien, errand boy – printing
Frank son 11 came 1911, alien
Angeline daughter 2 10/12
Julia daughter 3/12
Do you know where Aniela was in 1920? Was she married? I just wonder it she/they were living close to the Bielanski's. ~PL
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 10:49 pm
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Thank you!! I'll have to review what I had tried to find before. I do remember that there was more than one Josef Bielanski that came to Chicago from Zaluczne. One I found the name of his contact in Zaluczne, and that might have been Bessie, and the it seems like the other Jozef's page that would have had the contact on it might have been missing from the manifests. Aniela was married in 1917 in Hammond, Indiana, but she was in Chicago in the 1920 census with her husband and two daughters. I'll have to double check, but I think they lived on 19th St. I don't think that Aniela's father's mother ever married. Klemens Lenart was born out of wedlock, and I don't know that his mother had any other children. It's possible, but I guess I thought that it was more likely that Uncle Jozef Bielanski married a Babicz.
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:00 pm
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Found Jozef on Ellis Island. He’s indexed as Jozef Biclanski from Jalnckne, Gal. on line 16. Arrived Mar. 7, 1911 on the Kronprinz Wilhelm from Bremen, traveling with Feliks Fitek. Looks like he was going to his brother Jan B. in ? (couldn’t get this page to load & the writing is awful on this manifest) but probably Chicago, as that’s where Feliks was going. Left behind wife Bronislawa in Jalnckne.
Found at Ellis Island on lines 10-13 (excellent handwriting on this manifest) Bronislawa Bielanska, daughter Karolina age 9, son Jan age 6, and son Franciszek age 2 arriving from Antwerp on the Lapland on June 12, 1911. They were going to husband/father Jozef Bielanski at 1724 17th St. Chicago. Left behind sister P. Belina in Zalucze, Nowy Targ.
Looks like by 1920 Karolina was living away from home, perhaps married. If you can find a marriage record for her (or the 2 daughters born in the US), you might find Bronsilawa’s maiden name. Perhaps on familysearch as they have all those Chicago Polish church marriage records - or maybe Ute will look; she seems to be the expert on finding those Chicago marriage records  . ~PL
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:06 pm
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Thanks again, I really appreciate it! I will have to dig further...
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Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:38 pm
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OK I'm going to quit after this post  I found an Illinois death record for Frank Bielanski (father Joseph from Zalusna, Poland) born 1909, died 4 May 1947 in Chicago. Mother is listed as Bernice (common American version of Bronislawa) Lenart from Zalusna Poland. Looks like Aniela's father did have a sister or two... If all information provided everywhere is correct. ~PL
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Cheri Vanden BergPO Top Contributor & Patron
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 8:26 am
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Wow, thanks. I really do need to dig further. So far I see in the Dziennik Chicagoski Death Notice Index that Brownislawa Bielanski died 10/10/1958. In the notes section of the index was the surname Lenart. Also, I believe I found Jozef's death information at Family Search. He died on August 28, 1941, his wife's name was Bernice, he was born in Zaluczne and his parents were Vincent and Magdalen Bielanski. I'm going to send for Jozef and Brownislawa's obituaries from PGSA. I think it's possible that Brownislawa could be a great aunt of my grandmother's. Her age is actually in the right generation to be an aunt to my grandmother, but maybe if she was a much younger sister of my great-great grandmother Regina Lenart. I don't know any of Regina's siblings names yet.
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PolishLibrarianPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 11:50 am
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Cheri~ I will send you a private message with some attachments to look at. ~PL
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PolishLibrarianPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 12:10 pm
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Cheri~ I seem to be challenged with Private Messaging today. I though I just sent you a message but it wasn't in my sent box. Reply here if you didn't get it. I can't attach the Word documents through here, so would like to send to your regular email (send your email address via private message though). ~PL
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ZenonPolishOrigins Team Leader
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Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:27 am
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PL,
If your private message you sent is not in your 'sentbox' this means that it wasn't open yet by receiver. In this case it is still in your 'outbox'. If you still need contacting Cheri please let me know.
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:23 pm
Post subject: Re: Bielanski - Bielanska family near Czarny Dunajec
| Shellie wrote: | | The Bielanski & Bielanska surnames are found in several villages around Czarny Dunajec. If you are researching this family name, please leave a comment or question. |
I am searching for Karol Bielanski (wife Maria Stepanczyk); at least 3 of his children emigrated to the United States: Jan, (1891-1934) Antonina (1886-1929), and Katarzyna (1881 – 1918). I have records for these three in Cleveland, Cuyahoga County, Ohio and several of their descendants. On his marriage record, Jan's birthplace is given as Austria -- and I suppose that this was a piece of Poland that at that time was belonging to Austria. Jan's wife was Magdalena Strzelbicka, Katarzyna's husband was Anton Buj (Boj), and Antonina's husband was John Yacyszyn.
-- Most of these details are probably irrelevant to the search for the residence of their father Karol Bielanski, and I'm hoping he will turn up in the neighborhood of Czarny Dunajec. I see that it is near Austria, and I regard that as a hopeful sign.
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:52 am
Post subject: Re: Bielanski - Bielanska family near Czarny Dunajec
| tekla wrote: |
-- Most of these details are probably irrelevant to the search for the residence of their father Karol Bielanski, and I'm hoping he will turn up in the neighborhood of Czarny Dunajec. I see that it is near Austria, and I regard that as a hopeful sign. |
The historical maps might be of help to situate Austria over time
http://www.euratlas.net/history/europe/1900/index.html
Czany Dunajec was within Austria in 1900.
Kind regards
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Elzbieta
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 3:44 pm
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Thanks -- I had guessed that Czarny Dunajec was within Austria at that time, but it's good to have it confirmed.
Interesting maps!
Regards,
Tekla
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