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Cheri Vanden Berg
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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:25 pm Post subject:

Tekla,
Have you seen Jan Bielanski on a ship manifest at the Ellis Island site?
http://tinyurl.com/churvo2
That's the first page. There is a second page. He is going to his brother-in-law Tony Boj in Cleveland on December 6, 1912. His contact at home was his father Karol Bielanski. The town he is from is indexed as L. Murowane, Galicia, but I don't know if that is correct, I didn't find it on a map. Also it gives his birthplace as something like Starodal. I probably don't have that deciphered correctly, as I also did not find that on a map. I will keep working on it, but maybe a better set of eyes, or someone that might be familiar with the villages might be able to help you out.
Cheri

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:39 pm Post subject:

Tekla,
I think this is the John Bielanski that you are looking for on his WWI draft card (born 1891). I haven't tried to find the birth place that is written there yet.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-26463-3402-85?cc=1968530&wc=M9MT-PPY:n1367476086

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:49 pm Post subject:

Cheri Vanden Berg wrote:

and Cheri first message:
Have you seen Jan Bielanski on a ship manifest at the Ellis Island site
His contact at home was his father Karol Bielanski. The town he is from is indexed as L. Murowane, Galicia,

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That is all Lwow area, my parents place.

Line 5 on WWI draft card, Where were you born?
Yaski Murowane, stan Lemberg, Austria

The place is probably Laszki Murowane, it is 8 km distance from the center of Lwow, today in Ukraina.
Three names for Lwow: Lemberg, Lwow, and in Ukrainian Lviv.
Galicia, Austria.

BTW, Czarny Dunajec is 377 km from Lwow.

Kind regards,
Elzbieta

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:33 pm Post subject:

Thank you so much Elzbieta!
Tekla, I believe Elzbieta has found the correct place, and if you know of the Family History library, they have filmed some church records from Laszki Murowane. Here is the link:
http://tinyurl.com/dxqdwvs

Look at the last name on the list for Lazski Murowane (Stara Sol) Austria, Galizien. The Starodal that I read on the ship manifest is Stara Sol - this was where Karol Bielanski lived. It was in Austria at the time of Jan Bielanski's emigration. All 4 of the different names for Lazki Murowane are of course the same place. I hope this helps you. I'm not sure the dates that they have filmed will or not, but eventually they might as you learn more.
Best of luck!
Cheri

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:45 pm Post subject:

Thank you all. This is all wonderful information -- I have yet to absorb it all, but I will.

Warm regards,
Tekla

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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:06 pm Post subject:

Thanks again to all.

Yes, I see that you are surely correct as to the location of Karol Bielanski. I have noted the information from the FamilySearch Film Library, have copied the appropriate pages of the Konigen Luise manifest, and John Bielanski's draft registration card.

Please tell me how you searched FamilySearch so as to find that they have microfilm of the Laszki Murowane church records. I tried on my own because initially the link didn't work -- and failed completely. (Then I cut and pasted the URL, and that worked fine). But I would still like to know how you did your search.

Best regards,
Tekla

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:31 am Post subject:

Tekla,
I'm sorry that I didn't see your question until today, and I'm sorry that I gave you a bad link. I'm going to go back and shorten it. You probably know this now, but I thought I'd answer it anyway. To search what microfilms Family Search has, when you are at https://familysearch.org/ go to catalog, and then enter a place name.
Cheri

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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:57 am Post subject:

I have received the obituaries of Jozef Bielanksi (d.1941) and his wife Bronislawa Lenart Bielanska (d.1958). As I mentioned on this forum, I was curious exactly how they were related, because my grandmother Aniela Lenart was going to "uncle Jozef Bielanski", Chicago, when she arrived in 1913. Jozef's obit didn't mention his parents, but at least one Chicago document named them - Vincent and Magdalen. Bronislawa's obit named her mother Franciszka, but didn't name a father. I was told that Aniela's father Klemens' mother was named Regina, so it doesn't appear that Bronislawa and Klemens were siblings...

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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject:

Recently added the following records to FindAGrave website: Jozef Bielanski (1875-1941); wife, Bromislawa (1884-1958); son, Franciszek (1908-1947); daughter, Rita (1926-1987). The above were all buried in Resurrection Cemetery in Justice, IL.
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 2:09 pm Post subject:

Thanks Joe!

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