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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 4:59 pm Post subject:

Hi,
In all the documents you shared with us Piotr is Catholic. As Sophia mentioned, it is highly likely that he comes from Mlawa itself. But the Mlawa R-C church is well indexed, and the surname Teresko / Tereszko is not found. Since his father Platon came from Rivne, there is a possibility that the family belonged to the Orthodox or Greek Catholic church. The surnames sound Russian. These are just my thoughts.

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 5:06 pm Post subject:

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi Barb,

I am so happy to see you join this conversation!

I have a thought I would like your opinion on. As you said, the Roman Catholic records are well indexed for Mlawa, up through 1924, and there is no sign of this family. However, I wonder if all of the Roman Catholic records are here, or only those for one church. Based on what I see on genealodzy, there would have been two active Roman Catholic churches in 1924:

https://parafie.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=se&search=Mlawa

What do you think?

Sophia

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2025 9:24 pm Post subject: Churches

Hello Barb.
I am glad you've joined our conversation, poor Sophia is being so helpful and I am bombarding her with questions lol.

Sophia that is interesting never thought of there being more than one church. Will have to try and find out if both churches have been released/indexed etc.

Also the theory he is Orthodox or Greek Catholic would fit in with his name Plato/Platon as
'The name Plato is known in Poland primarily as the masculine given name Platon, which is a direct adoption of the Greek name (Πλάτων) and the source for the Latinized form Plato. The name itself means "broad" or "wide-shouldered" and refers to the famous Greek philosopher, Plato.'

I tried looking for their marriage in Mlawa but nothing showing either.

Do births have to be Civil registered like in UK. We register the birth at a Registry & then baptize in Church. If so is there aywhere I can look for the civil registration pls.

Thanks Pam

More ??? coming on lol
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:19 am Post subject:

Today's diversion: the streets of Mlawa.

I had hoped to have a moment of triumph and present you with a photo of ulica Makowskiego. Unfortunately not. There are a lot (!!!) of towns in Poland that do have a street named Makowskiego: Leszno, Jablonna, Gliwice, Sosnowiec, Krakow, Konin, on and on. And, as you already know, there is one in Dzialdowo.

However, I can tell you that there is in Mlawa a street named ulica Makowa. Whether it is what Piotr intended to write as his address, I cannot say. Here is where it is in the city. If you look at the "T" intersection in the center of the picture, go just west of Mikolaja Kopernika and just south of Aleja Marszalkowska. It is not a very long street although perhaps it once was and now part of it has been renamed to honor Wiktor Alter. Just speculating.

More about the streets of Mlawa in another message, shortly.

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 8:34 am Post subject:

More about streets.

There is a website that is a good resource for photos (old and new) of places in Poland. It is:
https://fotopolska.eu/

Here is how you can use it to look specifically at streets. Open that website, there is a search box in the upper right-hand corner where you can enter Mlawa. When you do that, you will find that you have 42 screens' worth of things to look at, but I want to narrow that down. Do you see the where it says "Architektura 1000" ? Scroll up just above that word and you will see the word "ulice" and you need to click on that. If the stars are aligned correctly and luck is with us, you will see that your 42 screens' worth of images have been narrowed down to 9. Did it work?

Ignoring that first entry for Stary Rynek, you will notice that you now have a whole bunch of streets you can look at photos of. Let me point out a few things. For example, under ulica Warszawska, you see that it has "44 zdjec" meaning 44 photos. For ulica Zeromskiego Stefana, you see next to that in smaller print "Ogrodowa." This means that there was once a street named ulica Ogrodowa which was later renamed to honor Stefan Zeromski.

While the eighth page of the nine pages of Mlawa's streets does indicate the existence of ulica Makowa, there are no photos. I guess the name is there just as a place-holder for someone who chooses to upload images.

Anyway, now that you have a basic sense of what is there, you may enjoy exploring old pictures of Mlawa so that you can see some of the sights that would have been familiar to Piotr.

Sophia

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:14 am Post subject:

Hi Sophia
Wow that is so interesting. Thank you. As you can see from my post at about 1/3 3 this morning I had a rather rough night. Been on holiday and come back to cold weather so now streaming with cold, sore throat, bunged up nose so hardly got any sleep hence my night owl activities lol

Last night I got to thinking about Piotr's baptism etc. based on my daughter .We lived west of the city so she was born just over the border as nearest hospital. Then registered in small market town nearby. We then moved to East of the city were she was baptized in my local parish. So anyone looking for her birth or baptism will not find her in the city she lived.
What if, and it's a big i,f Maria went home to her Mother's house in Mlawa and gave birth to Piotr. She then returned to where she was actually living and baptised Piotr there instead of Mlawa. Just a thought and I am having lots of those!
I am going to check the streets out now.

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:26 am Post subject:

I've managed to follow your instructions and found the photos [9] Great to see the ariel one as it is 1939 so Piotr was there around this time if he stopped there.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 9:52 am Post subject:

Hello everyone!
A little update from me.
Sophia, yes we have 2 R-C churches that may be relevant. Unfortunately the first page of the available resources does not give me an answer which church is indexed. I think that at that time the church also kept civil registers.
I sent a question to the person responsible for this page:
https://kronika-mlawa.pl/ul-stary-rynek-3/. I would like to know where "Ulica Makowskiego" was located. This will help us locate the church Piotr belonged to.
In addition, I will now check if there are any annexes from the current time. If Platon and Maria married in Mlawa, then the church required his birth record.
Poor resources from Rivne on FamilySearch.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:21 am Post subject:

I tried to find a description of Mlawa to go with photos and found a brilliant description on https://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/mlawa/mla532.html With the photos it really brought it to life.
Pam
The photos are brilliant.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:22 am Post subject:

BarbOslo wrote:

Hi Barb,
Yes the annexes are available, just not indexed unfortunately. It would be a treasure to find Platon's info in the annex.
As to Ulica Makowskiego, I do not think it existed (see my posts about streets, above).
Thanks for looking into the 2 RC churches.
Sophia

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:25 am Post subject:

Barb

I feel we are edging closer & closer to Piotr, we ave been searching for so long and was losing hope but feel we may get there eventually.

Thank you both for all your work.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:53 am Post subject:

Hi Am I reading this right re Annexes
Looks like 1925 is missing or maybe nothing for that year.
Annexes 1924 135
Annexes 1926 39

If it's missing you can bet Piotr was in there!!!

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 10:54 am Post subject:

Sophia wrote:

BarbOslo wrote:

Sophia, I'm going to go page by page and read them all. Hope dies last...
-Barb

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:21 am Post subject:

Am I seeing what I want to see lol...probably not
Entry for a Marja Syzyszko & Teresko name??
Year 1924 no 182

sorry won't let me post bmt file for some reason.

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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2025 11:29 am Post subject:

Can you take a picture of the page or link?
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