ALAEssex
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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2025 11:59 am
Post subject: Update
Hello All
Just a quick update.
I have finally located the birth records of my grandfather and his brother, thanks to a researcher in Ukraine.
And another mystery....!
Wenceslaus Josephus Robertus Schnitzer - born 18 March 1916 (not 1912 per his UK naturalization and marriage certificates) - we do not yet know why we have the wrong date of birth and the researcher is reviewing birth records to see if there was another boy born in 1912, perhaps also on the 18 March..?
And so I reviewed the information that people had posted, including the arrest records from Stevemorse.org
On the list there are two other names with parent Michal Sznicer (same mis-spelling as Waclaw Sznicer)
- Antoni - 1903
- Artur - 1907
But also a Stanislaw Sznicer was arrested at the same time as Waclaw - their ID numbers are 47317 and 47318 respectively.
It might be a stretch but I feel like there is a chance these may be related.
Obviously research in Ukraine is challenging but we are so happy to have made such great progress.
Thank you all again for your help.
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 6:23 am
Post subject: Re: Update
| ALAEssex wrote: | Hello All
Just a quick update.
I have finally located the birth records of my grandfather and his brother, thanks to a researcher in Ukraine.
And another mystery....!
Wenceslaus Josephus Robertus Schnitzer - born 18 March 1916 (not 1912 per his UK naturalization and marriage certificates) - we do not yet know why we have the wrong date of birth and the researcher is reviewing birth records to see if there was another boy born in 1912, perhaps also on the 18 March..?
And so I reviewed the information that people had posted, including the arrest records from Stevemorse.org
On the list there are two other names with parent Michal Sznicer (same mis-spelling as Waclaw Sznicer)
- Antoni - 1903
- Artur - 1907
But also a Stanislaw Sznicer was arrested at the same time as Waclaw - their ID numbers are 47317 and 47318 respectively.
It might be a stretch but I feel like there is a chance these may be related.
Obviously research in Ukraine is challenging but we are so happy to have made such great progress.
Thank you all again for your help. |
Hi Amanda,
It's so kind of you to come back and update us on your success! Out of curiosity, where were your grandfather and his brother born? We have looked at so many different towns in Ukraine. As I recall, their short-lived sister Isabella was born in hospital in Lwow. But where were the brothers born?
If you'd like to post the baptism record for Waclaw Robert, it would be interesting to see it.
Nice sleuthing, by the way, to go back to the list of deportees and find that ID number link (or suggestion of a family link, anyway) between Waclaw and a Stanislaw Sznicer. It's so useful in research to go back and look at what was found earlier to see if it yields additional clues.
All the best,
Sophia
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ALAEssex
Joined: 22 May 2025
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 10:37 am
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Hi Sophia
I believe that he located their records somewhere near Kolomyia, I have attached the record I have received.
The researcher is looking through the population registers to confirm that the family were living in Kolomyia during the period 1939-1940.
It has been quite a journey so far and it looks like there might be more twists and turns to come!
KR
Amanda[/img]
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2025 1:47 pm
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| ALAEssex wrote: | Hi Sophia
I believe that he located their records somewhere near Kolomyia, I have attached the record I have received.
The researcher is looking through the population registers to confirm that the family were living in Kolomyia during the period 1939-1940.
It has been quite a journey so far and it looks like there might be more twists and turns to come!
KR
Amanda[/img] |
Hi Amanda,
Thanks for the reply. The image you tried to attach did not get attached, though.
Sophia
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ALAEssex
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 2:38 am
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Hi Sophia,
I hope it is attached this time...
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2025 5:08 am
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Hi Amanda,
Yes, that worked. Nice clear handwriting. Clearly he was born in 1916, no question about it.
The family appears to have lived in Lwow, because this page of baptisms gives the street address of each child and by looking at the street names, I can deduce they lived in Lwow. Your Schnitzer family lived on a street called Grottgera, in house #7.
The list of street names in Lwow in 1920 is here:
https://maps.geshergalicia.org/general/lviv-lwow-lemberg-1920/street_index.jpg
And from that you should be able to find it on the map here:
https://maps.geshergalicia.org/general/lviv-lwow-lemberg-1920/
If it helps you to see it, look for a very short street that crosses the line between rows 3 and 4 in column F. You will see Grottgera connecting to the longer street Franciszkanska.
All the best,
Sophia
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ALAEssex
Joined: 22 May 2025
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Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2025 9:08 am
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Hi Sophia
Thanks for the map.
I am assuming that he was born in Kolomyja because that's where his Mother was from, likely she went home to her own mother to give birth.
I will redirect the researcher to look in the Lwow records for the residential information.
Amanda
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