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grdngrl09



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Post Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 5:52 pm      Post subject:
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Hi,
I have tried to look at all the information I could read in your posts. I thought I would start from what was written in the Manifesto to Jan. Here it is stated that the father's name was Jacko (Polish Jacek, Latin Hiacynt). Unfortunately there are not many resources available online. I managed to do this with the help of Genetyka. Look at the diagram I am attaching. I have 7 records that relate to your main line. I can send it by e-mail if you wish. I will see if I can find anything about Mikolaj tonight.
It would be interesting to see what is available in Ancestry and FamilySearch.

-Barb


This is so much work Barb! Oh my, thank you. Where do you think my Anna/Jacob fit it?
Can I pm you? People really have these trees a mess if this is how they connect.
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Post Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2025 7:55 pm      Post subject:
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It is not easy to connect them. Many have the same first and last name, and were born at the same time. I made a suggestion that in my opinion fits together, but I can't be sure that it is correct. It looks like Jacek is probably your Jacob. Yes, write a pm.
I didn't find Mikolaj. I see on Genetyka only a combination with the names Jan Cycyk and Anastasia ( nee Hawryłyk). But they cannot be Mikolaj's parents. They married in about. 1864. Mikolaj was born almost 30 years later. In addition, Anastasia died in 1892. Mikolaj was born in 1893.
-Barb
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 7:49 am      Post subject:
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I do think Mikolay is a mystery. Probably a cousin and probably from a different area.
In Wilm, DE there are /were a few Nicholas CYCYK's and plenty of Micheal CYCYK. Even now. I cant help but think thee is a connection.
If Latin Hiacynth. is Jacob/Jacko, then that leaves options. There was only a single BANDROWSKA, and I was told in Poland/Aus at the time you would normally see BANDROWSKY/BANDROWSKI - as "SKA"??

Barb- looking at your tree Jacek and Anna in 1860's, had Micheal/Anna/Jan, this is where ppl are taking Micheal/Anna and putting them in other trees on both Ancestry and FS. There are many Micheal and Anna CYCYK that came through Philadelphia, PA/ then Wilm, De
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 8:09 am      Post subject: Take a look at this manifest for Anna...
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This is the information Ancestry lists: (she is listed under a Hryc CYCYK)
Name
Anna Cycyk
Gender
Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality
Ruthenian (Russniak) (Ruthenian)
Marital Status
Single
Age
19
Birth Date
1891
Birth Place
Galicia
Other Birth Place
Lackie
Last Known Residence
Lacko, Galicia
Departure Port
Bremen
Arrival Date
28 Jun 1910
Arrival Port
New York, New York, USA
Residence Place
Galicia
Final Destination
Wilmington, Delaware
Height
5 Feet, 4 Inches
Hair Color
Blonde
Eye Color
Brown
Complexion
Fair
Money in Possession
20
Person in Old Country Iwan Cycyk
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in Old Country Residence Lacko Galicia
Person in US Michal Cycyk
Person in US Relationship Brother
Father Iwan Cycyk
Sibling Michal Cycyk
Ship Name Kaiser Wilhelm II



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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:13 am      Post subject:
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The family connections are complicated, and I point out again that I built the diagram only on the basis of the few information I could read.
Hiacynt is the Latin form of the Polish name Jacek. Jakob is another name.

Now regarding the last Manifest you uploaded, Hryc is a shortening of the Ukrainian name Hryhorij (Григорій). Polish name Grzegorz. English Gregory.
Lacko is a village in the parish of Dobromil, Ukraine.
I got an interesting email from Sophia just now. We need to look into this. Nice that Sophia writes it here in the Forum.

-Barb
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:25 am      Post subject:
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BarbOslo wrote:
The family connections are complicated, and I point out again that I built the diagram only on the basis of the few information I could read.
Hiacynt is the Latin form of the Polish name Jacek. Jakob is another name.

Now regarding the last Manifest you uploaded, Hryc is a shortening of the Ukrainian name Hryhorij (Григорій). Polish name Grzegorz. English Gregory.
Lacko is a village in the parish of Dobromil, Ukraine.
I got an interesting email from Sophia just now. We need to look into this. Nice that Sophia writes it here in the Forum.

-Barb


Hi Barb,

As you requested!

We do need to look at the Dobromil near Lwow. There is a Greek Catholic church there, and there are Cycyk people there. But Geneteka only indexed records from very, very few years (births 1784-90 and 1831-36). See attached screenshot.

I looked at this because both the naturalization petitions, for Jan and for Mikolaj, only say they were born in Dobromil. It is very strange that the transcript for Jan's naturalization petition added the name of the place "Arlamof" because that place name is nowhere on his naturalization petition document.

When I say transcript, it is one of the things Trish posted, 4 days ago, in her 2:11pm post:
Name John Cycyk
Sex Male
Age 32
Birth Date 7 Jun 1892
Birthplace Arlamof, Dobromil, Galicia, Poland

But when you look at the image of the naturalization petition, it does not say Arlamof. However, I do see that town on Jan's ship manifest.

All very confusing.



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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:32 am      Post subject:
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I believe that Arlamof = Arlamow. They had little education. I also think it was a lack of translation. But that's just my uneducated guess, as well.

On CYCYK records I have seen both Lacko, Luzek, and Arlamow. From my understanding from others, they were a stone's throw from each other at the time. I can post some things I have saved.
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:35 am      Post subject:
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John CYCYK Immigration page 2.


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:38 am      Post subject:
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Thanks, that second image of the naturalization document for John resolves where the word Arlamof came from, when someone transcribed the info.
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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:38 am      Post subject: John and Thecla Marriage
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This is where I found the connection of all 4 names


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:42 am      Post subject: JOhn immigration p. 3
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This is where I see Ternopil for Stella/Teckla


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:44 am      Post subject: John naturalization p 4
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on the left is the date he was officially naturalized (which would be the same for her, if I'm correct?)


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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 10:54 am      Post subject: Nicholas Naturalization
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I believe there may be more than 1 Nicholas. Nicholas and John both lived on Heald St, in Wilm, DE.
This particular Nicholas, had an Annie for a wife, and a micheal for a son. I believe he ties back his original name being Mikolay if I can find that record.. based the land records.



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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:07 pm      Post subject:
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I am looking through the church records in the parish of Dobromil looking for Jan Cycyk and Anastasia. Will write back in a little while.

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Post Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2025 12:11 pm      Post subject: Re: Take a look at this manifest for Anna...
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grdngrl09 wrote:
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This is the information Ancestry lists: (she is listed under a Hryc CYCYK)
Name
Anna Cycyk
Gender
Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality
Ruthenian (Russniak) (Ruthenian)
Marital Status
Single
Age
19
Birth Date
1891
Birth Place
Galicia
Other Birth Place
Lackie
Last Known Residence
Lacko, Galicia
Departure Port
Bremen
Arrival Date
28 Jun 1910
Arrival Port
New York, New York, USA
Residence Place
Galicia
Final Destination
Wilmington, Delaware
Height
5 Feet, 4 Inches
Hair Color
Blonde
Eye Color
Brown
Complexion
Fair
Money in Possession
20
Person in Old Country Iwan Cycyk
Person in Old Country Relationship Father
Person in Old Country Residence Lacko Galicia
Person in US Michal Cycyk
Person in US Relationship Brother
Father Iwan Cycyk
Sibling Michal Cycyk
Ship Name Kaiser Wilhelm II


Hi everyone,

There is so much happening here that it is very difficult for me to keep up.

What I want to comment on now is this ship manifest for Anna Cycyk arriving 28 June 1910. You posted an image of the first page, but it is a two-page manifest. Anna is traveling with Hryc, I take it from what Barb wrote that is the same as Grzegorz. But look at the line above him. You will see Wasko Martynyszyn from the same town as Grzegorz and Anna, specifically the town of Lacko. You will see, on John Cycyk's naturalization petition form, the place near the bottom which is for witnesses and there is the signature of Wasyl Marciniszyn. Same fellow.

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Sophia
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