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Richard Lubinski

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject:

In the early 1700,s my Lubinski name was referenced to Swider. How is this posible? Could Swider be an owner of an estate?

Cheri Vanden Berg
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:15 am Post subject:

Hi Richard, I'm not sure what you mean by the Lubinski name was referenced to Swider. Is this something that you found in a record? In many birth records of my family from the village of Zaluczne, they have "alias" surnames included with their surnames, which were nicknames. In one case the surname was changed over the years to the alias surname.

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Richard Lubinski

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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject:

Cheri, Thank you for your interest. If a family has a large estate and the people that help work the estate could they use the family name as part of there last name? Like, Richard Lubinski (Swider)?

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:49 am Post subject:

Richard,
I don't know the answer to your question, so I hope that someone else does. I am inclined to believe that Swider was a nickname, but I can't say for certain. In another PolishOrigins forum, there is a photo that has people with the nickname "Swider", see here on the second post: http://forum.polishorigins.com/viewtopic.php?t=458
Other people in the photo have different nicknames in quotation marks.

I looked up świder on google translate, and it is a Polish word that means drill or auger, so this could have something to do with the nickname.

There is an interesting article about nickname origins from the village of Odrowaz (near one of my ancestral villages - Zaluczne). My Klemens Lenart nickname was Jungustyn, and that was because he was a grandson of a man named Augustyn [Lenart]. There was someone that was nicknamed Figus because their grandmother or mother came from the Figus family. Someone had a nickname Wdowcow because his father has long been a widower. There was someone with a nickname Siyniawon because they came from the village Sieniawa, There was a nickname based on someone's grandfather that raised hens, one whose grandfather was a shoemaker. I wonder about my Jozef Babicz' nickname Bieda which means poor, mischief, or trouble...

I had wondered if these nicknames were a regional thing, but on the other side of Poland a woman wrote a master's thesis about nicknames from Ruda Rozaniecka, which was right beside Shellie's ancestral village Rebizanty/Huta Rozaniecka. If anyone knows anything about that, Shellie would love to read it!

I found this How Surnames Came Into Being article interesting:
http://polishorigins.com/document/surnames
The forum about this article is interesting as well. You can click to get to it at the end of the article. The comments that people shared were very informative.

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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:53 am Post subject:

Richard,

In he early 18th Century not all Polish peasants used a surname and even into the early 19th Century surnames often were rather fluid. Swider could possibly been a reference to an occupation since as Cheri wrote the name does refer to a drill and then for some reason the family came to be known by the surname Lubinski. Among my ancestors there was a Kajetan who was a cartwright and in the late 1700s he was referred to by his occupation---stelmach. The family name could have been something like Stemaszek had his widow and children continued to use a surname connected to his occupation but they came to use the surname Kajetaniak which obviously referred to him as the paterfamilias.

Happy Easter.

Dave

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