Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:14 pm
Post subject: Help with identification of Soldiers unit
I am searching for data on my daughters great grandfather. His last name was Treichel, and he was of German orgin. But he lived very much with and amoung the Polish people. He was fluent in Polish and German. He lived near the town the Germans called Graudenz.They had a farm, but were evacuated in March 1945, and never returned. He died in 1968.
I have this picture of him, I think sometime after 1918. He appears to be in a Polish Ulans uniform. Is it possible he served in the Polish Military? Would there be any record of this?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Help with identification of Soldiers unit
| Steinmeister wrote: | I am searching for data on my daughters great grandfather. His last name was Treichel, and he was of German orgin. But he lived very much with and amoung the Polish people. He was fluent in Polish and German. He lived near the town the Germans called Graudenz.They had a farm, but were evacuated in March 1945, and never returned. He died in 1968.
I have this picture of him, I think sometime after 1918. He appears to be in a Polish Ulans uniform. Is it possible he served in the Polish Military? Would there be any record of this?
Any help would be appreciated. |
Hi,
The city Graudenz is Grudziądz, Poland
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grudzi%C4%85dz
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grudzi%C4%85dz
Grudziądz is proud to be the Capital of Polish Cavalry, which is precisely related to Polish Ułanie.
Here a short youtube from 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQOtMe7MoLU
I found an interesting description of Polish Ułanie :
http://www.jednostki-wojskowe.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=44&Itemid=30
- below is the beggining translated by Google to English, it's awkward, but not so bad.
In my opinion it gives you an answer: yes, it's possible that a German was serving in this famous cavalry, Polish Ułanie.
An aside note: there is almost 300 Treichel living today in Poland
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/treichel.html
My simple Google search gave me even Podpułkownik Jacek Treichel z Ministerstwa Obrony Narodowej // Lieutenant Colonel Jacek Treichel from the Ministry of National Defence //, invited important guest to give the name of Polish Ułanie from Wolyn to a school in Warsaw's suburbs, in 2010:
http://www.bajkowa.waw.pl/?p=main&what=288
Thank you for bringing interesting subject!
Best,
Elzbieta
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History 18th (Pułk Ułanów Pomorskich) Regiment Pomeranian Lancers begins in the summer of 1919, the formation of the regiment started in the framework of the armed forces of Wielkopolska, daily order No. 201 of the Central Command in Poznan on 24 July. Thus began the formation 4th Regiment Wielkopolskich Lancers, who had to work on taking Gdansk Pomerania granted to Poland by the Treaty of Versailles, thus the name of the regiment was changed August 2 1919 year to 4th Pułk Vistula Lancers. The commander of the new regiment was Lieutenant Colonel August Donimirski. The composition of the regiment was to be complete by the former German army troopers who served in the Army infantry formations Wielkopolska, Pomerania also encouraged residents to join the squad. By October failed to form a 1st (szwadron) squadron composed of 4 officers and 180 NCOs and lancers. Slow completing the composition due to the fact that there were plans for the Lancers will be converted into a regiment of mounted riflemen, which has less willing volunteers than the Lancers. Clarification of this issue took place in February 1920, when it changed its name to 18th Regiment Lancers Pomeranian and it became clear that this will be an independent cavalry formation. 18, the regiment took part in addressing areas of Pomerania, January 16, 1920 the regiment came from Poznan to Inowrocław and from there to the area troop concentrations Col. Skrzyński. Pomeranian agencies Rifle Division with 18 regiment crossed the demarcation line at 11:00 am, in the vicinity of the village Lipa Gniewkowo been an exchange of fire with the battalion of German troops, it was caused by a mistake as to the hours crossing the demarcation line, during an exchange of fire squadron of 18 regiment suffered the first victim, killed Sergeant Pająkowski. Apart from this incident further action takeover of Pomerania was without problems, 18th Pułk as the first unit of the Polish Army entered the Toruń, where he remained and took no further part in the march towards the sea. The large number of volunteers from the area of Toruń and the surrounding area was formed 2nd squadron in 18th Pułk, after 2 weeks of the regiment went to Grudziadz, where he started forming 3 squadron, until in August 1920 the regiment was completed to full-time 4 squadrons and machine-gun squadron. The next step in the history of the regiment's part in the Polish-Bolshevik War, part 18th Pułk began on 28 May 1920, the command of the regiment received orders to send one independent squadron in the north-eastern front ...
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rsowaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:52 am
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Steinmeister...I think there is no question he was wearing a Polish uniform (not German). I say that for two reasons...the cap is the traditional square Polish military cap, and the collar decoration is also traditional Polish.
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