Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:18 pm
Post subject: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - Vital records
Hi,
My grandfather was born in Łuniniec in 1913 and I'm looking for any records about him.
Does anyone know in what archive Łuniniec birth certifications/records are stored (if they survived the WWWII)? Can it be in the district of Pinsk?
I looked over the internet and couldn't find nothing when searching in English.
Thanks,
Ilan
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:41 am
Post subject: Re: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - birth certification
| ilanf wrote: | Hi,
Sorry for not writing in polish.
My grandfather Szymon (Szynwa or Szimon) Frumkin was born in Łuniniec in 1913 and I'm looking for his birth certification.
Does anyone know in what archive Łuniniec birth certifications/records are stored (if they survived the WWWII)? Can it be in the district of Pinsk?
I looked over the internet and couldn't find nothing when searching in English.
Thanks,
Ilan
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I have also founded that his name is mentioned in the next source:
http://www.sztetl.org.pl/pl/article/dzierzoniow/31,ziomkostwa/?action=view&page=2&ver=5
Spis członków Koła Żydów zamieszkałych przed 1939 r. w Sarnach (byłe woj. poleskie, ob. Ukraina), a żyjących w Dzierżoniowie w 1947 r.
Frumkin Szynwa Majer i Genia 1913, Łuniniec Sarny - ul. Przedmieście 3
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:03 pm
Post subject: Re: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - birth certification
| ilanf wrote: | | ilanf wrote: | Hi,
Sorry for not writing in polish.
My grandfather Szymon (Szynwa or Szimon) Frumkin was born in Łuniniec in 1913 and I'm looking for his birth certification.
Does anyone know in what archive Łuniniec birth certifications/records are stored (if they survived the WWWII)? Can it be in the district of Pinsk?
I looked over the internet and couldn't find nothing when searching in English.
Thanks,
Ilan
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I have also founded that his name is mentioned in the next source:
http://www.sztetl.org.pl/pl/article/dzierzoniow/31,ziomkostwa/?action=view&page=2&ver=5
Spis członków Koła Żydów zamieszkałych przed 1939 r. w Sarnach (byłe woj. poleskie, ob. Ukraina), a żyjących w Dzierżoniowie w 1947 r.
Frumkin Szynwa Majer i Genia 1913, Łuniniec Sarny - ul. Przedmieście 3 |
Ilan,
I tried to understand the path from Łuniniec (today Belarus) to Dzierżoniow (West of today Poland), as it is more than 1000 kilometers, see attached map, with names in today's countries:
Luninets,+Belarus/Dawidgródek,+Brest+Region,+Belarus/Stolin,+Belarus/Horodno,+Brest+Region,+Belarus/Sarny,+Rivnens'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/Kowel,+Volyns'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/Dzierżoniów,+Poland/
The answer is from railways: Sarny (today Ukraine) was a large railways crossection after 1902, there was a train from Łuniniec to Sarny, passing eastward of Horodno, and a line going from Kowel to Kiev.
See also an old map http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG_maps/series/100K_300dpi/P41_S43_HORODNO_1928_300dpi_bcuj298452-289393.jpg
Some of BMD records from former Poland in that area are in AGAD, http://agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/testy.html
I do not see Łuniniec there, alas.
Other sources, when existing, are on per religion basis.
You can find some information on administrative organisation of województwo poleskie between WWI and WWII here
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojew%C3%B3dztwo_poleskie
Sorry, not a real help.
Best,
Elzbieta
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Spis członków Koła Żydów zamieszkałych przed 1939 r. w Sarnach (byłe woj. poleskie, ob. Ukraina), a żyjących w Dzierżoniowie w 1947 r.
[Biblioteka Studium Kultury i Języków Żydowskich we Wrocławiu, Spisy imienne członków Kół Ziomkostw zamieszkałych na Dolnym Śląsku.]
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:26 am
Post subject: Re: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - birth certification
| Elzbieta Porteneuve wrote: | | ilanf wrote: | | ilanf wrote: | Hi,
Sorry for not writing in polish.
My grandfather Szymon (Szynwa or Szimon) Frumkin was born in Łuniniec in 1913 and I'm looking for his birth certification.
Does anyone know in what archive Łuniniec birth certifications/records are stored (if they survived the WWWII)? Can it be in the district of Pinsk?
I looked over the internet and couldn't find nothing when searching in English.
Thanks,
Ilan
|
I have also founded that his name is mentioned in the next source:
http://www.sztetl.org.pl/pl/article/dzierzoniow/31,ziomkostwa/?action=view&page=2&ver=5
Spis członków Koła Żydów zamieszkałych przed 1939 r. w Sarnach (byłe woj. poleskie, ob. Ukraina), a żyjących w Dzierżoniowie w 1947 r.
Frumkin Szynwa Majer i Genia 1913, Łuniniec Sarny - ul. Przedmieście 3 |
Ilan,
I tried to understand the path from Łuniniec (today Belarus) to Dzierżoniow (West of today Poland), as it is more than 1000 kilometers, see attached map, with names in today's countries:
Luninets,+Belarus/Dawidgródek,+Brest+Region,+Belarus/Stolin,+Belarus/Horodno,+Brest+Region,+Belarus/Sarny,+Rivnens'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/Kowel,+Volyns'ka+oblast,+Ukraine/Dzierżoniów,+Poland/
The answer is from railways: Sarny (today Ukraine) was a large railways crossection after 1902, there was a train from Łuniniec to Sarny, passing eastward of Horodno, and a line going from Kowel to Kiev.
See also an old map http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG_maps/series/100K_300dpi/P41_S43_HORODNO_1928_300dpi_bcuj298452-289393.jpg
Some of BMD records from former Poland in that area are in AGAD, http://agad.gov.pl/inwentarze/testy.html
I do not see Łuniniec there, alas.
Other sources, when existing, are on per religion basis.
You can find some information on administrative organisation of województwo poleskie between WWI and WWII here
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojew%C3%B3dztwo_poleskie
Sorry, not a real help.
Best,
Elzbieta
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Spis członków Koła Żydów zamieszkałych przed 1939 r. w Sarnach (byłe woj. poleskie, ob. Ukraina), a żyjących w Dzierżoniowie w 1947 r.
[Biblioteka Studium Kultury i Języków Żydowskich we Wrocławiu, Spisy imienne członków Kół Ziomkostw zamieszkałych na Dolnym Śląsku.]
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Thanks you Elzbieta for sharing this info.
Actually, my grandfather served the polish army in WWII from 1943(?)-1945, was wounded in the arm and was taken into prison by the Nazis and somehow they realist him back.
I assume that the record in reference site have the possibility of a mismatch and therefor I should confirm it I sent few emails for trying to confirm this info.
I have also contacted with the polish army archive trying get some details and I'm waiting their reply.
Thanks,
Ilan
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Elzbieta PorteneuvePO Top Contributor
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Location: Paris, FranceBack to top |
Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 9:20 am
Post subject: Re: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - birth certification
| ilanf wrote: |
Thanks you Elzbieta for sharing this info.
Actually, my grandfather served the polish army in WWII from 1943(?)-1945, was wounded in the arm and was taken into prison by the Nazis and somehow they realist him back.
I assume that the record in reference site have the possibility of a mismatch and therefor I should confirm it I sent few emails for trying to confirm this info.
I have also contacted with the polish army archive trying get some details and I'm waiting their reply.
Thanks,
Ilan |
Ilan,
Do you mean http://www.straty.pl ?
I entered the name Frumkin, got an answer with a list of 11 cases (the first 3 seem be the same person from Łuniniec).
One of items is Symeon.
I wish you success in finding your records.
Elzbieta
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 8:07 am
Post subject: Re: Łuniniec (Luninets) 1913 - birth certification
| Elzbieta Porteneuve wrote: | | ilanf wrote: |
Thanks you Elzbieta for sharing this info.
Actually, my grandfather served the polish army in WWII from 1943(?)-1945, was wounded in the arm and was taken into prison by the Nazis and somehow they realist him back.
I assume that the record in reference site have the possibility of a mismatch and therefor I should confirm it I sent few emails for trying to confirm this info.
I have also contacted with the polish army archive trying get some details and I'm waiting their reply.
Thanks,
Ilan |
Ilan,
Do you mean http://www.straty.pl ?
I entered the name Frumkin, got an answer with a list of 11 cases (the first 3 seem be the same person from Łuniniec).
One of items is Symeon.
I wish you success in finding your records.
Elzbieta |
Exactly!
Thank you Elzbieta
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