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mcdonald0517
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Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:52 pm Post subject: Need help locating records for this village

Hi everyone,

Thanks to some recent translations Ryszard has done for me, I think I am closing in on finding the birth village for my great grandmother, Paulina Kryger and her family.

I need help in locating records for the following village in east Prussia:

Frankenau (German), Neidenburg, Thurau (Roman Catholic Parish)

now

Frąknowo (Polish) in Gmina Nidzica, Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship

I need birth, marriage, death records for 1845-1860

Parents names are: Andrzej Kryger, Maria Radzyminska
Children are: Paulina Kryger born 1851, August Kryger born 1854, and Gottlieb Kryger born 1859

Can anyone tell me if these records are online? If not, can someone tell me the name of the archive or parish I can contact for the records?

Thanks for your help! I am so close after searching for several years.

Cynthia

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:21 am Post subject: Re: Need help locating records for this village

mcdonald0517 wrote:

Cynthia,

First, I had a look on the old geography book (no doubt you already did), because the most difficult is to know names over time, Polish, German alike:

http://dir.icm.edu.pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_II/402
Frankenau, p. Nibork
http://dir.icm.edu.pl/Slownik_geograficzny/Tom_VII/31
Nibork, Niedzbork, Mazury, East Prussia, south of Krolewiec = today Kaliningrad
Thurau, Turowo, p. Nibork, stacja pociagu Wittmannsdorf (gmina Pisz)

Searching for Nibork, Niedzbork I found a German website, very well done:
Nibork, Neeberg, Neberg - same name
http://gov.genealogy.net/item/show/NEBERGKO03NT
Powiat mrągowski, Sensburg

Villages names in Polish and German in that area are under wiki Nidzica in German:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidzica -- Neidenburg

Prussian map:
http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/GOV:NEBERGKO03NT map

Then more search shows that Neeberg and Thurau are on the Salt Like City listing:
http://www.genealogyblog.com/?p=31287

Not much in http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/ with Nidzica or any other of your names

It seems to me that some of Prussian archives should be in Berlin archives, and I would like to learn how to search there too.

Best,
Elzbieta

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:26 am Post subject:

Cynthia,

If the records you need are not available online, they are available on LDS films. Attached is the LDS film listing for the R.C. parish of Thurau/Turowo.

Hope this helps.

Dave

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mcdonald0517
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:30 am Post subject:

Hi Elzbieta,

Thanks so much for the research and all the links. I pieced together some of the information translating Prussian to Polish locations, but I knew I would need your expert help!

I will look into what you provided and see what I can find.

Best,
Cynthia

mcdonald0517
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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:34 am Post subject:

Thanks Dave! I hadn't checked LDS for Turowo - just for Nidzica. This is great news.

Cynthia

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Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:19 pm Post subject:

http://www.many-roads.com/libraries/prussia-histories/records-possibilities/
Identifies sources for vital records of the former German territories now in Poland.

mcdonald0517
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:40 pm Post subject:

Great resource! Thanks, Henryk.
Cynthia

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