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Jillian W



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Post Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:04 pm      Post subject: Early 1800's Military
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I am trying to find the birth place for the following ancestor and have listed everything which I know about him.

His occupation from his marriage onwards has been given as a Kreisdragonner and my understanding is that each district office had six Kreisdragonners who were recruited from retired military men who were well educated.

In addition to the 9 children born in Jaslo I have found a further two sons who appear to have been born a few years before he married Katarzyna. As she was pregnant at the time of their marriage I’m guessing it’s possible these could have been her children or perhaps Jan had been married before and his first wife had died.

I would appreciate any answers/advice/information/suggestions/etc., to these questions:

1. What would be considered a retirement age for a dragoon?
2. Would he have been recruited from a dragoon regiment while he was serving in the Jaslo area?
3. If not, then would he have been recruited from elsewhere in Galicia - or even further afield?
4. Is it significant that the marriage took place in the town where Jan was employed rather than in the place where the bride’s family lived?
5. Does his surname provide any clue as to where his family originated from?

Anything which would help to narrow down a search area would be truly helpful.

Jillian



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Post Posted: 4 Days ago at 7:26 am      Post subject: Re: Early 1800's Military
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Jillian W wrote:
I am trying to find the birth place for the following ancestor and have listed everything which I know about him.

His occupation from his marriage onwards has been given as a Kreisdragonner and my understanding is that each district office had six Kreisdragonners who were recruited from retired military men who were well educated.

In addition to the 9 children born in Jaslo I have found a further two sons who appear to have been born a few years before he married Katarzyna. As she was pregnant at the time of their marriage I’m guessing it’s possible these could have been her children or perhaps Jan had been married before and his first wife had died.

I would appreciate any answers/advice/information/suggestions/etc., to these questions:

1. What would be considered a retirement age for a dragoon?
2. Would he have been recruited from a dragoon regiment while he was serving in the Jaslo area?
3. If not, then would he have been recruited from elsewhere in Galicia - or even further afield?
4. Is it significant that the marriage took place in the town where Jan was employed rather than in the place where the bride’s family lived?
5. Does his surname provide any clue as to where his family originated from?

Anything which would help to narrow down a search area would be truly helpful.

Jillian



Hello Jullian,

Indeed, I found on Geneteka information about marriage of Jan and Katarzyna: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=S&w=09pk&rid=S&search_lastname=belitzay&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=
and about their children: https://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=B&w=09pk&rid=B&search_lastname=belitzay&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=&rpp1=&ordertable=
(there are no parents' names listed but Belitzay is so rare surname that we could be sure that they are children of Jan and Katarzyna).

I checked the map of the Belitzay surname distribution - there is no one bearing this name in today Poland. However there are 13 people with Bellitzay surname: https://nazwiska-polskie.pl/Bellitzay

I think that the marriage record of Jan and Katarzyna could give you more information: this act should includes names of Jan and Katarzyna's parents and possibly their birthplaces.
You could try to contact Jasło parish: [email protected]

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Best regards,
Katarzyna



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