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stewart



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Post Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:26 pm      Post subject: Birth and Baptism certificate
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Attached is a German/Russian (or Ukrainian) birth and baptism record for Adolph Mantei. I think I can read most of it but not sure if he was born on the 21st or 22nd February 1886, does it say he was born on 21st and baptised on 22nd? I can't read where he was born and whether it was in Russia or Ukraine. I know in the top left it says St Petersburg but I've got some recollection that might just be the church's HQ so to speak. It looks like his father's name is Gottlieb and his mother Emilie Teske?


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Post Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2025 6:28 pm      Post subject:
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sorry I thought this would get posted in German translations, I can't figure this forum out!
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Post Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 12:20 am      Post subject:
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stewart wrote:
sorry I thought this would get posted in German translations, I can't figure this forum out!

The right side is written in Russian.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2025 6:01 pm      Post subject:
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Hi Stewart,

I understand the difficulty of figuring out how things work when you are still new to the forum. Many people prefer to make their own post about a topic because it is easy to see when someone replies. When you post in one of the long-running translation threads, you have to sift through the replies meant for other people in order to find yours. It can take some getting used to. At any rate, you got replies in both the German and the Russian translation threads, but I do want to add one point that was not commented on.

When you look on the German side of your document, it is pre-printed "wurde in Kirchspiel Zhitomir geboren" so yes, he was born in Zhitomir, but the baptism was in a town specified in handwriting, right before the word "getauft". Barb and I looked at it, and we see it as Pokoschewo, which is today's Pokashchiv in the Volyn Oblast of Ukraine.

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Post Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 12:44 pm      Post subject:
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Sophia wrote:
Hi Stewart,

I understand the difficulty of figuring out how things work when you are still new to the forum. Many people prefer to make their own post about a topic because it is easy to see when someone replies. When you post in one of the long-running translation threads, you have to sift through the replies meant for other people in order to find yours. It can take some getting used to. At any rate, you got replies in both the German and the Russian translation threads, but I do want to add one point that was not commented on.

When you look on the German side of your document, it is pre-printed "wurde in Kirchspiel Zhitomir geboren" so yes, he was born in Zhitomir, but the baptism was in a town specified in handwriting, right before the word "getauft". Barb and I looked at it, and we see it as Pokoschewo, which is today's Pokashchiv in the Volyn Oblast of Ukraine.

Hope that helps.
Sophia


Yes thanks for clarifying that Sophia. I think I'm getting the hang of the forum now, I just wish I'd discovered it ages ago as I've had so much help and new ideas for things to pursue.
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Post Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2025 1:27 pm      Post subject: Re: Birth and Baptism certificate
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stewart wrote:
Attached is a German/Russian (or Ukrainian) birth and baptism record for Adolph Mantei. I think I can read most of it but not sure if he was born on the 21st or 22nd February 1886, does it say he was born on 21st and baptised on 22nd? I can't read where he was born and whether it was in Russia or Ukraine. I know in the top left it says St Petersburg but I've got some recollection that might just be the church's HQ so to speak. It looks like his father's name is Gottlieb and his mother Emilie Teske?


Saint Petersburg Evangelical Lutheran Consistory District

Revenue stamp: 75 kopecks

Birth and baptism certificate

Extract from the list of people born and baptized in the Evangelical Lutheran Zhytomyr parish, Volhynia Governorate.

On February 21st, 1886 a child was born in the parish of Zhytomyr, named Adolf and he was baptised on February 22nd, 1886 in Pokoszewo. A son of the legal spouses: Gotlieb Mantei and Emilia nee Jeske, both Evangelical Lutherans.

The godparents were: Józef Mantei and Maria Hein.

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