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timothyore



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Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 12:00 am      Post subject: Kozanice, Prussia
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My paternal grandfather was Mateusz Orzechowski, born in 1881 in Huta, near Skepe. I have been able to trace all his paternal and maternal ancestors back to the late 1700's. The entire family lived for most of the 1800's in the area near Skepe, between Plock and Lipno. Towns and villages included Jasien, Tluchowo, Oboz, Huta, Zaduszniki, Bachorzowo and Gojsk. The information I have indicates that my grandfather's great grandfather, Maciej Orzechowski, was born in Kozanice, Prussia in 1778. I have not been able to identify the location of this town. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:44 pm      Post subject: Re: Kozanice, Prussia
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timothyore wrote:
The information I have indicates that my grandfather's great grandfather, Maciej Orzechowski, was born in Kozanice, Prussia in 1778. I have not been able to identify the location of this town. Does anyone have any ideas?
Thank you for any help.

Tim Ore


Hi,

What about Kazanice "a" instead of "o" ?

Kazanice does exist, it is close to Lubawa, definitely Prussia from that years.
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazanice

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Post Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 3:27 pm      Post subject:
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Elzbieta,

Thank you very much for the reply. I believe Kazanice is most likely the town that my ancestor was born in. Thank you for the link to the Polish Wikipedia article on the town. It is much more extensive than the English Wiki article. In the translation of the Polish article, it appears to state that Kazanice has preserved several dwellings from the time of the birth of my Orzechowski ancestor (around 1780). Perhaps some day pictures of these will appear on the internet.
Thanks again for your help.

Tim
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Post Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:47 pm      Post subject:
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After further research, it now appears that Kozanice is actually Kosenice (Cossynycze, Koszynicze, Kossinicze), a town/village in the parish of Goleszyn, east of Skepe and near Sierpc. There are however, now two named places that I have come across that I have not been able to find. These are called "Igli Rumian" and "Grozkach". I assume they are in the same general area as Sierpc and might have been called these names around 1800. Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:09 am      Post subject:
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timothyore wrote:
After further research, it now appears that Kozanice is actually Kosenice (Cossynycze, Koszynicze, Kossinicze), a town/village in the parish of Goleszyn, east of Skepe and near Sierpc. There are however, now two named places that I have come across that I have not been able to find. These are called "Igli Rumian" and "Grozkach". I assume they are in the same general area as Sierpc and might have been called these names around 1800. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Tim


Tim,

It would be interesting to know what is your source about these places. In advance, I can tell you that the ending -ach is a declensioned form, so the place must something like Grozki (assuming your source has not misspelled the name).

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Post Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:37 am      Post subject:
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Tim,

Based on your information, I believe one place is Grodkowo (very close to Kosenice, see map attached). Native speakers could tell us if Grodkach would be the correct declensioned form.

I think that 'Rumian" is, actually, Rumunki and there are many places in that area, usually preceeded by other name. Source http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG100_300DPI/P37_S29_SIERPC_300dpi.jpg

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 1:07 am      Post subject: Kozanice, Prussia
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Gilberto,

Thank you very much for the information. Actually, my source for much of my Orzechowski genealogy information comes from a college professor in the state of California, U.S.A. who has done an extensive amount of work with Polish genealogy. Her website is www.jwdupon.net/genealogy/polish.html

I (and many other individuals) are deeply indebted to her for the information she has amassed. I also wanted to thank you for the link to the map of the Sierpc area. It has a wealth of information on it. Our Orzechowski ancestors came from many places on this map. Jasien and Tluchowo located near the bottom are two of those places. Another is Tupadly which is referenced as being off the map to the bottom left. Would you be able to specify a map link that has this area on it?

My grandmother and her family came from the area of Poland near Wagrowiec, including towns such as Krzyzanki, Lekno, Powidz and Legowo. Do the maps that you have access to contain these areas?

Thanks again for your time and information. I really appreciate it.

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Post Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:09 am      Post subject: Re: Kozanice, Prussia
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timothyore wrote:
Gilberto,

Would you be able to specify a map link that has this area on it?

My grandmother and her family came from the area of Poland near Wagrowiec, including towns such as Krzyzanki, Lekno, Powidz and Legowo. Do the maps that you have access to contain these areas?

Thanks again for your time and information. I really appreciate it.

Tim


Tim,

the link for the collecton of maps is http://igrek.amzp.pl/mapindex.php?cat=WIG100

Gilberto
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