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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2026 3:26 pm
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Hi everyone,
A summary from me:
Rosalia's 1902 manifest states that she was traveling to her brother-in-law Iwan (Jan) Mizyń. Jan was married to Rosalia's older sister, Catharina. They were married in Poland in 1892. I found an 1894 death record for 1.5-year-old Anna, who was the daughter of Jan Mizyń and Catharina Cierpisz. Anna died in Koziówka, which belongs to the Stary Dzików parish. I suppose the family emigrated in early 1901.
Furthermore, Michal and Maria, whom you found in Genetyka, were Rosalia's parents, and Jan was her brother.
There is very little available online from Stary Dzików, but I managed to reconstruct a few generations back. Rosalia and her family lived in Ułazów in house no. 250. The family's original surname was, as Sophia pointed out, Cierpisz.
See the attached chart.
Regards,
-Barb
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Yesterday at 4:38 am
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| BarbOslo wrote: |
Rosalia's 1902 manifest states that she was traveling to her brother-in-law Iwan (Jan) Mizyń.
I suppose the family emigrated in early 1901.
Regards,
-Barb |
Hi Barb,
The index card that was posted earlier in this thread shows Rozalia Pudlo entering at Buffalo NY after having been in Portage au Prairie, Manitoba, Canada. Interestingly, it seems to indicate that she was in the U.S. as early as 1896. Unfortunately, it's a little difficult to find that manifest since the index card says she arrived on the "S/S Unknown."
It's wonderful how much information you were able to pull together on this family.
Sophia
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: Yesterday at 8:27 am
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Perhaps the 1900 census could help? It is possible that more siblings came over to the USA. The parents died in 1894 and 1900.
-Barb
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Posted: 22 hours ago at 6:57 pm
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I have the passenger record from ellis island. she came on the statendam, from rotterdam and arrived april 14, 1902. her brother joseph came before her.
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TrishPO Top Contributor
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Posted: 6 hours ago at 11:03 am
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| mtmtntop wrote: | | I have the passenger record from ellis island. she came on the statendam, from rotterdam and arrived april 14, 1902. her brother joseph came before her. |
Hi Everyone,
Mtmtntop, do you have a birth year for Rozalia's brother, Jozef?
I found this record for a possible Jozef. He is on line # 294. Jozef is going to PA. No town of origin is listed.
Name Josef Cirpisz
Gender Male
Birth Circa 1866
Arrival Aug 10 1893
New York, New York, United States
Departure Bremen
Ship Spree
Age 27
Nationality Austria
Line 294
Possible Iwan Mizyn Manifest. Iwan is on Line #8. He is listed as married. Iwan is going to DeLancey, Pennsylvania. However, I can use another set of eyes on this manifest since it's dark.
Name Iwan Mizyn
Gender Male
Birth Circa 1866
Arrival Sep 27 1899
New York, New York, United States
Departure Bremen
Ship Barbarossa
Age 33
Last permanent residence Viemstow
Nationality Galicia
Marital status Married
Relative joined in the U.S. (Brother)
Line 8
Regards,
Trish
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SophiaPO Top Contributor
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Posted: 6 hours ago at 11:11 am
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Hello Mtmtntop,
Yes, we were able to see the manifest you mention from 1902, as that is the one that Trish posted. However, the index card is clear that Rozalia had been in the U.S. earlier than that. It shows the year 1896. So there should be another manifest for her, albeit from a year in which the manifests are far less informative with the amount of information that they gathered on each immigrant.
I also want to throw a little wrench into the works, regarding which church the records are from for the deaths of Michal and Maria, as well as Jan. When you follow the link to Family Search, the microfilm is clearly labelled as being Greek Catholic. However, that is not correct. You can see the name of the priest who recorded Maria's and Jan's death, it is Father Seweryn Feremberg. He was the priest for Holy Trinity R.C. church, not for the Greek Catholic church. Further, for Michal's death, the priest was Stanisław Świdecki, also a Roman Catholic priest. I do not know why there is this discrepancy in how the film is labelled.
I am attaching a screenshot from the cover page of the microfilm for Stary Dzikow. Barb, if you are reading this, does that show information about the church?
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BarbOsloPO Top Contributor
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Posted: 6 hours ago at 11:27 am
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Hi Sophia and Trish,
I found all the information about the family shown in the chart in the Roman Catholic Church. This is the correct manifest for Jan Mizun (the husband of Rozalia's sister Katharina). According to the marriage record from 1892, Jan was 26 years old at the time. This gives an estimated birth year of 1866.
-Barb
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Posted: 4 hours ago at 1:46 pm
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first thanks for all your help untangling this . Here are some thoughts.
i did notice that the records were labeled as greek catholic and thought it was due to Maria possibly being greek catholic. Researching that, I found that in a mixed marriage, the marriage would be in the church of the bride. It appears from your research, the book is mislabeled. As far as I know from the family, there were no greek catholics, but its all based on oral history.
Regarding Rozalia coming to the US in 1896, many dates do not line up. I have not yet gotten access to the metrical book that may hold Rozalia's birth notice but am working on it as LDS records show it as available. Rozalia's death certificate shows her birthdate as 1885. Another document filed with immigration and naturalization lists her birthyear as 1883 and 1885 on another document. Her marriage license states she is 24 years old in 1902, making her birthdate in 1878. Most of the documents show her birthdate in the mid 1880's,. If she had come to the US before 1902, she would have been 12-14 years old. there is no family history that hinted that she arrived to the us twice by 1902. I think the 1896 date on the canadian border card card is incorrect, but its only a guess.
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lets see. Delancey pa is probably where my relatives headed. In the end, they were in Stump Creek, near sykesville which is about 15 miles from delancey. and they were all coal miners. i don't have access to ancestry.com, but i think there is a family tree there for joseph's family, including rose, under cherpish. looking at handwritten trees, i see the catherine, roses sister married to a mike mizen, probably the same person you see on the manifest.
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